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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry creates a portal to Demonreach!
« on: November 25, 2021, 02:59:04 PM »
As much as I want him to have a door like the one in Cold Days, I don't think he'll have one anytime soon for a few reasons, some Watsonian, some Doylist.
  • D: It's too easy. Too convenient.
  • W: Even if it's just basement to outhouse, it's still a huge security risk.
  • D: Butcher bothered to give Harry a ruby of ways, and figuring out ways, and has hardly used it.
  • W: I agree that the power requirement is beyond Harry's ability to sustain a direct link.

I figure he'll use his mom's ruby in Twelve Months to find a Way to the island that's only a few hops. But I could see a door being made later in the series that's sponsored by Alfred and has prison-and-Gate style wards on it to keep baddies out.

I mean come on, I could totally see some sidhe finding a missing pantry door at the outer gates, and another just shrugging and saying, "Dresden".

DF Spoilers / Re: Hope Dresden doesn't get vaccinated
« on: September 28, 2021, 09:37:20 PM »
It's the Mark Of The Beast...

But we all knew that. Denarians started it. But we might get some political Polyannas chiming in to sensor me.

 Michael will come and save us from the Democratic Flu soon.

Might have to jump over to the never never to escape its reach..
Let me make this perfectly clear. Covid is a real world issue that is deadly serious. I don't give a shit about anyone's politics on the matter.

Someone I know died of covid this morning, after being on a ventilator for two months. He was young, he was healthy, and he is dead now. His wife and kids have to figure out how to live without him.

So this is everyone's one and only warning.
If you talk shit about it, I will ban you.

If you all think that's unreasonable, then I will shut down the site. I will give the database to someone else, and they can start it up again elsewhere if they want.  And you can do as you wish.

I consider many of you to be online friends. But if this happens again, I will say goodbye forever. Just like I did this morning.

DF Spoilers / Re: Wedding day ideas
« on: September 27, 2021, 11:47:03 AM »
Does anyone think Eb doesn't show? He will bitch and moan, and then tell Langtry he's going. Period. Uses the "He lived with me for 2 years" excuse. 

You know, i could see Archleone as smug enough to show....

Mac get an invite?
Eb killed Harry because of his rage over his relationship with Thomas. Unless Eb gets therapy over the next year, I don't see him being fine with a wedding.

Mac will probably cater.

Yeah, when I put Michael up for best Man I forgot it would be the worst stag party ever.... though I don't see tea shop. Michael would have everyone over to his backyard for a cookout. Burgers and beer. And remind anyone who may think of having too many - there are angels ON THE ROOF watching you....
I could see strippers showing up in the backyard and everyone assumes it was Thomas, but it turns out Bob ordered them online.  ;D

DF Spoilers / Re: Wedding day ideas
« on: September 27, 2021, 04:17:57 AM »
As I see it, this wedding; meaning the alliance between between Winter and the White Court, is Mab's idea and therefore it would be her party, even if Molly or Lea handled the planning in conjunction with input from Lara Raith.  Therefore, it would be Mab who would decide which major powers would be on the invite list.  So, the question to ask is not whether the White Council, Ghouls or Swartalves would want to attend, but whether Mab would invite them to send a representative. 

Should Mab decide to make a very public statement by inviting all the major powers in the anti-Fomor alliance to send representatives to the wedding; and I think there is a fair possibility this would occur, would the White Council, Ghouls or Swartalves decide to snub Mab's invitation?  I don't think so. 

One possible problem I foresee with this hypothetical wedding is this gathering might look a little like a combination of Bianca's Ball, Harry's birthday party in Cold Days and the get together of the major powers near the beginning of Peace Talks.  I would expect lots of creepy manipulation and everyone would stare daggers at each other, but haven't we already seen that kind of thing before, and fairly recently?  Maybe we could get what I wanted to see happen in Peace Talks.  Some major player from one of the supernatural nations is murdered and Harry has to solve the crime to save the alliance and his own skin.  It would be nice to see Harry get to be a detective again.
Mab is smart enough to know that an alliance between the (now) most powerful vampire court and Winter, starring a wizard that has pissed off the White Council and the Svartalves and the Baron of Chicago, is not going to be popular.

I don't think she's going to go out of her way to antagonize anyone. I think the existence of the alliance will be enough. And honestly, I'm not even sure she'll attend. I could easily see her letting Lea attend her godson's wedding, which would mean she'd be at the Gates.

DF Spoilers / Re: Wedding day ideas
« on: September 27, 2021, 01:10:18 AM »
Itís a political event, so most of the Accorded Nations will be there. Think a Royal Wedding where Heads of State and Government are invited.
I'm not entirely sure about that.
  • The White Council could boycott because Harry is persona-non-grata (and his two closest relationships are seriously pissed about him being friendly with Lara).
  • The Svartalves are likely still not pleased about the assassination attempt and subsequent kidnapping of the attacker, by the two people getting married no less.
  • The ghouls don't like Harry any more than he likes them.
  • The Denarians seem to be out after their SmF betrayal, and they wouldn't show anyway after Harry's involvement with Deirdre's death and Nico's loss of standing.
  • I don't see the Erlking caring for such things. I imagine he shows up only for what he has to.
  • Same for Ferrovax.
  • Marcone will show up even though he wouldn't want to. He can't let an event like that happen in his town without being a part. Especially if he wants to make sure he doesn't start getting cut out now that Mab knows about the coin.

So I think it'll be Winter/White/Summer Courts, plus River and maybe Vadderung if he's got nothing better to do, and Marcone out of necessity.

DF Spoilers / Re: Wedding day ideas
« on: September 26, 2021, 06:12:25 PM »
Minister: Father Forthill
Groom: Harry Dresden
Bride: Lara Raith
Best Man: Michael Carpenter
Maid of Honor: Inari Raith
Groomsmen: Thomas Raith, Waldo Butters, Mouse
Bridesmaids: Elisa Raith, Natalia Raith, Felicia Raith
Ushers: Toot, Lacuna, Za Lord's Guard
Father of the Bride, Dance: Lord Raith
Godmother of the Groom, Dance: Leanansidhe
Venue: Dresden Castle, Grand Hall
Host: Mister, Lord of Dresden Castle

Queen Molly
Queen Sarissa
Knight Fix
The Alphas
Charity Carpenter
Maggie Dresden
Representatives of the other Raith houses
John Marcone
Sigrun Gard

DF Spoilers / Re: Mirror Mirror character changes ideas
« on: September 26, 2021, 05:48:33 PM »
We know he's going to be summoned by negaHarry to be killed in his place.  I think that's got to be a solo trip tbh.  None of the other summonings we've seen have included multiple beings.  Besides, I think that you'd need a True Name for a mortal to summon another mortal across realities, much less have the magical oomph to pull in someone else for the ride.

primeChandler will be the touchstone for Harry to get real information about the mirror reality and what's different.  Also, probably one to give him inside information on who's gunning for him suddenly in the WC to call to vote him out.
I agree for the most part, but the only inter-reality travel we've seen was via a gateway (a la Drakul). So imagining it as a vortex isn't out of the realm of possibility.

I could also see it as something building up around him, and someone with super strength (Lara perhaps) grabbing him tight and then getting pulled along.

Not that I think that'll happen, but it makes me wonder if he might not go alone.

DF Spoilers / Re: Name the next book! (Unofficial Fan Contest begins!)
« on: September 26, 2021, 04:11:36 PM »
This is fun. :)
My ideas:





and my favourite:
Let me know the context for these in relation to the wedding or hunting Justine and I'll add them.

I dunno, I'd have spent the whole book wondering if Kincaid was gonna come and shoot the Red King  8)
I can see it all now.  ;D


DF Spoilers / Re: Name the next book! (Unofficial Fan Contest begins!)
« on: September 26, 2021, 01:59:54 PM »
Eh, Downer Ending seems like an idiom to me. And... was Cold Days or Ghost Story really that much more idiomatic?

Tha said I'm not gonna claim they were all brilliant :p
I'd say they were common phrases. Skin Game might be the least common, but other than that one, nobody has to guess at the meaning of each book title. I'm not sure that "Downer Ending" is common enough knowledge to be both a known phrase and also an illusion to the events of a book about a wedding and manhunt.

And besides, it'd be too much of a spoiler. He couldn't name Changes "SNIPER BULLET".  :P ;D

DF Spoilers / Re: Wedding day ideas
« on: September 26, 2021, 01:53:10 PM »
Mab said it'd be a year, and the book is currently named twelve months. So it'll likely be the anniversary of their victory, or the day after. So when was BG?

DF Spoilers / Re: Mirror Mirror character changes ideas
« on: September 26, 2021, 01:38:28 PM »
Do we know for sure Harry will be going to the mirrorverse alone? Logically it seems likely, but if he's with someone else (like standing at the altar for his wedding) and some magical thing kicks in, and someone close to him (like Lara or his best man or the minister) grabs for him, could they be pulled in as well?

DF Spoilers / Re: Name the next book! (Unofficial Fan Contest begins!)
« on: September 26, 2021, 03:22:40 AM »
Now  suppose these probably could run into some copyright, but...

Vampire Diaries
White Satin


Cast Away
Dated Diary
Chicago Wizards
Foul Fall
Winter's Warmth
Sweet Spring
(we already had Summer Knight)
Court Cases
Lady Love/Lust
Demon Dates

Or a bit negative:
Trauma tracks
Fears Alone
Downer Ending
Sweats Sorrow

I think I like Lady Love most, of these - even if obviously Lara is not much a lady not very loving... but I'm sure Molly can be woven in to make it fit :p
Most of these aren't really idioms or common phrases, though, right? I'd say Cast Away, Court Cases, Lady Love are, but the only one of those that gets close to plot adjacent is Lady Love, and that'd have more to do with Molly than Lara. I could see Court Cases being about issues between the courts, a la Lara and Molly, but Molly is playing ball as far as we know.

I don't think I've heard that as a phrase or idiom.

These are apt phrases, although I'd argue INDECENT PROPOSAL is more common and still apt than DP.

DF Spoilers / Re: Name the next book! (Unofficial Fan Contest begins!)
« on: September 25, 2021, 09:00:03 PM »
Updates made!

DF Spoilers / Re: Name the next book! (Unofficial Fan Contest begins!)
« on: September 25, 2021, 05:26:31 PM »
I voted for Spell Bound, but how about Tied Knot?  Drug Ring?  Veiled Threat?  Dresden titles are fun.
I'm picking up Knot and Veil and even Ring, but how does Drug fit in?

Sorry HEAD CASE is taken for Bobís origin story, with Harry on a paternity case tracking down Bobís parents. I hope.

The skull is literary a container for a talking head, and very neurotic (Bobís second favourite Ďroticí)

We need it at least as a novella, and Jim loves writing for Bob.

What about DEATH MATCH? Harry is marrying an apex sexual predator and is likely to end up in a fight to the death/duel leading up to his nuptials, better yet a wedding morning duel by someone from the White Court or White Council trying to derail the wedding, or something else Raith had already promised his daughters hand to.
I hadn't considered that as a Bob story, but that sounds fun! We will have to self-actualize it into existence.

Death Match sounds more like the wrestling book, but could fit.

DF Spoilers / Name the next book! (Unofficial Fan Contest begins!)
« on: September 25, 2021, 02:08:39 PM »
Conspiracy Theorist suggested Butcher might not be settled on the name of the next book (described as spanning the year after BG as Harry deals with the fallout of recent events).

CT suggested SPELL BOUND, which got my brain thinking.  I came up with HEAD CASE, FAMILY MATTER, and COURTING DISASTER, but I thought it might be fun to open it up to everyone to propose their ideas.

The Rules:
  • Two word title, each with the same number of letters.
  • It should be a pun off a common phrase or idiom.
  • It should relate to the proposed plot.
  • This is definitely not official so nobody should expect to win anything; it's just for fun!

Just post your ideas, and I'll add them to the list. Votes can be changed as more options are added, but you can only vote once.

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