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Title: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: habu987 on September 02, 2011, 12:56:30 AM
During my time on the forum, I've noticed that we've got forumites with a wide variety of careers and educational backgrounds that have come up in random conversations, ranging from high school to a gazillion doctoral degrees in superspecificethnolinguistics (*cough, cough, Shecky, cough, cough*).  So, I thought it'd be interesting to see what sorts of educational backgrounds folks have.  I'll kick it off:

I got a triple major for my Bachelor's--History, Political Science, and Criminal Justice.  I've also got a Masters of Business Administration, and am considering a Masters in Strategy/Innovation/something of that nature in a few years.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Enjorous on September 02, 2011, 01:00:22 AM
Come December I'll have a BA in Psychology and then I'm going to move on and get an MFA in Professional Writing.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Dina on September 02, 2011, 01:06:26 AM
I have a doctorate in biology and I have also a professor title (I don't know how it translate to USA system. It would be a college degree in biology teaching)
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: shadowlost on September 02, 2011, 03:30:59 AM
I'm working on my Psych degree. I was close to getting a degree in Veterinarian Medicine but I let that go.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Alablast on September 02, 2011, 04:17:46 AM
I have a high school diploma!...  I'm nearing the end of a year's worth of college towards a networking degree, and I'll be taking cert tests come October, hopefully.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Chiroptera on September 02, 2011, 04:30:34 AM
M.S. in biology.  I've mainly concentrated on wildlife/ecology, but I have fairly broad training.

Once I get a bit more settled here I want to start looking more in earnest into some GIS training.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Madd on September 02, 2011, 04:32:51 AM
I have a BS in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, and am currently getting my Masters of Applied Science:  Chemistry.

EDIT:  I have no desire to ever get a Ph.D!  I'm sooooo done with school after I've completed this.  I like learning, and love doing research, but I am ready to get my life started dammit!  :D
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: TheWinterEmissary on September 02, 2011, 06:23:32 AM
I was never very interested in school (theoretically yes, in terms of the classes/professors I actually had not so much). 

But I still managed a BA in Political Science and an AA in Speech Communications. 
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Howl on September 02, 2011, 07:47:40 AM
I have a high school diploma. And I am currently in college working for my degree in the History and Culture of Asia and the Middle East. :)
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: FireWorks on September 02, 2011, 10:41:35 AM
In August, I'll have both B'Tech and M'Tech degrees in Electrical Engineering. I'm still considering if I really want an MS or PhD or even an MBA in the future.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: DoTArchon on September 02, 2011, 02:46:38 PM
I have a Grade12 (high school diploma equivalent?) :-[
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: habu987 on September 02, 2011, 02:55:16 PM
I have a Grade12 (high school diploma equivalent?) :-[

Nothing wrong with that!  Up until my parents', nobody in their families ever went to college.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Phid on September 02, 2011, 03:31:48 PM
i have a highschool diploma
and a theroetical degree in BS
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: MouseWynne on September 02, 2011, 03:49:05 PM
I have a BA in "Liberal Studies" which in California is the prelude to getting a teaching
certificate.  I had no interest in being a teacher and ended up in that course due to
being hijacked by my adviser. ::) My minor was Anthro and I'd only need one more class for a
BS in that.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: zavierchicky on September 02, 2011, 03:58:42 PM
Double BA's in Psychology and Criminal Justice with double minor's in Community Health and Women's Studies.  I started in nursing but bailed on that ( I am way too obnoxiously independent to play well with others on a health care team, as I found out after a year of clinicals )

All of which I do precisely diddly with  ;)  Well, unless you count all the Psych involved with raising kids, volunteering on several Boards for local stuff and attempting not to bop my clients over the head when they want the impossible  ;D

Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Mandey Moo on September 02, 2011, 04:08:28 PM
I was going to school for nursing, that was put on hold when we started our family though. I've been concentrating on my writing since I've been home, so not sure if I will go back to school or not.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: habu987 on September 02, 2011, 04:14:48 PM
My choice of majors in college story was an interesting one.  I went to a military college and for years had wanted to go into the military upon graduation (after three years of trying to get in, I finally gave up, due to medical reasons).  I started out as an electrical engineering major, but as a member of the honors program at the school was put into honors calculus.  I had rocked algebra and trig in highschool, but only did middlingly well in calculus, so I was in WAY over my head with honors calc.  After realizing that I'd have to take years of honors calc, I dropped engineering...and switched to political science.  Picked up criminal justice my second semester in school, then picked up history as my third major spring of my sophomore year.

...And then realized at the end of my junior year that there weren't any real job opportunities that I was interested in in any of those fields.  So, throwing it all to the wind upon graduation, I was a swim coach for two years, then got an MBA and am now an IT/financial management contractor.  Four years of taking 24 hours a semester and having zero life down the drain, in terms of how they have benefited me in the professional world.  Well, I take that back--I wrote a LOT for those three majors, so I'm pretty proficient at writing these days.

Go figure.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Mandey Moo on September 02, 2011, 04:17:03 PM
My husband has been bugging me to write a book for years. I have a bad habit of starting things and not finishing them. =/
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: habu987 on September 02, 2011, 04:32:20 PM
My husband has been bugging me to write a book for years. I have a bad habit of starting things and not finishing them. =/

Me too!  Over the past 10-12 years, I've started at least eight different books, and am toying with my latest idea now.  I've also written a few short stories (including one unintentionally hilariously bad one from when I was 11).

One of my favorite classes I took in college was an honors English class during my sophomore year--we had the option of writing our 12 page minimum term papers as creative writing or standard writing.  I went the creative route and ended up writing a 36 page short story.  That was when I realized I like writing fiction a lot.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Mandey Moo on September 02, 2011, 04:34:26 PM
It is fun, I write a lot of fanfiction, which helps me practice writing and building story lines. Eventually I get there, can't rush the creative process. I have been working on building characters for a new original idea of mine though.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: habu987 on September 02, 2011, 04:38:38 PM
Trying to rope this back into the topic of the thread, I've toyed off and on with the idea of getting a grad degree in creative writing, or fiction writing, or whatever the particular name of the degree is.

As I said, I really enjoy writing, but my writing has matured a great deal on its own, due to the sheer amount of fiction and non fiction writing I've done over the past seven or eight years, for school or for pleasure.  Not sure if I'd benefit a significant enough amount from going to grad school for it to justify getting that degree.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Katty on September 02, 2011, 04:42:16 PM
Bachelor of Arts in both Economics and Government.  Was about one class away from a philosophy minor, but I really didn't want to take intro.

After several years working as a systems analyst, went back and got an MBA in Management Information Systems and Decision Sciences.  And promptly got a job in a finance group.  LOL.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Otlan on September 02, 2011, 07:25:39 PM
*Ears Droop* Yesh...I feel outclassed here -_- ...
I have a High School Diploma and about 2 years of college under my Belt, until I faild out -_- . I wasen't Happy in the Major I was takeing, and my dumb Ass Advisor Screwed up and put me into a Class I had already taken and passed once already, but still, that did not feel good -_- . So now, I'm working at a Job, trying to get my student loans payed off, only one more to go, and trying to save up money so I can go Back and get a Degree in what I want to do.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Snowleopard on September 02, 2011, 08:27:11 PM
I feel outclassed too Otlan.  Hey at least you're paying off your student loans - I understand that a lot of people don't even try.  What subject do you want to major in.
I have an AA in Commerical Art and am a sorta master of esoteric info.  Weird facts seem to stick to the roof of my brain. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Otlan on September 02, 2011, 08:36:48 PM
I feel outclassed too Otlan.  Hey at least you're paying off your student loans - I understand that a lot of people don't even try.  What subject do you want to major in.
I have an AA in Commerical Art and am a sorta master of esoteric info.  Weird facts seem to stick to the roof of my brain. ;D ;D

Diddo on the Weird facts. I'm a Treasure trove of Useless Information n_n.
We can be outclassed together then Snow n_n.
I want to go into Game Desighen, Since they're the only things I'm actually any good at n_n.
A Couple of days after I faild, I got a job and started paying them back. I decided I was one of these people who didn't want to sit around the house and be a bum all day. Once I started to get some of my coffidince back, I decided I wanted to go back to college and try again.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Snowleopard on September 03, 2011, 12:53:50 AM
Good for you and more power to you.
I want to go back to college too and get some computer courses under my belt.
Particularly Photoshop.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Fyrchick on September 03, 2011, 02:18:00 AM
Hmm...
I went to College as as a Political Science/Russian major and was graduated with a B.A. degree in Studio Art with a concentration in Classics. (Weird!) Since then I have gotten a lot of certifications in various things. My Paramedic certification is about 1400 classroom hours (Basic EMT to Medic) which is the equivalent of a Bachelors in terms of time. Add in the other topical certifications and I have at least another A.A. degree. I teach a few things, but mostly concentrate on various aspects of trauma life support.  I am also currently working on grant writing but plan on a Masters in Public Health/EMS Research at some point in the next decade. Hopefully.  :o
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Doroga's Cousin on September 03, 2011, 02:27:50 AM
I have...none of these.

But that might be because I'm fifteen. :D
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Amber on September 03, 2011, 02:40:07 AM
BA in Biology (with a focus in molecular plant biology) with minors in French and "ancient studies," which was essentially some mythology classes.  MS in Biology, again focus in molecular plant biology.  That one was supposed to be a PhD, but I got pushed out under some less than happy circumstances, so I totally get the sentiment on not getting the PhD.

I'm going to be taking some extension classes starting this fall to get an additional certification in bioinformatics and computer programming, specifically for biology.

Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: sensaijman on September 03, 2011, 02:43:29 AM
Ive got a Bachelor's in Culinary Arts with my associates in the same field and just because you have not gone to college is not a bad thing. I am only the second person to graduate from college in my family and they have all done fine. Experience and determination make up a large portion of what makes a person. I have met some really dumb people with bachelors degrees going for masters and then i have met people with a GED who make me think some of my professors were idiots by comparison.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Dina on September 03, 2011, 02:50:34 AM
I agree with that, there is nothing wrong with choosing other paths.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: habu987 on September 03, 2011, 03:04:21 AM
Ive got a Bachelor's in Culinary Arts with my associates in the same field and just because you have not gone to college is not a bad thing. I am only the second person to graduate from college in my family and they have all done fine. Experience and determination make up a large portion of what makes a person. I have met some really dumb people with bachelors degrees going for masters and then i have met people with a GED who make me think some of my professors were idiots by comparison.

Indeed!  One of my undergrad classmates was one of the smartest people I've ever known, but struggled to graduate with a 2.0--he had a 1.4 average freshman and sophomore years, but he was seriously one of the smartest people I've met.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Fyrchick on September 03, 2011, 04:27:53 AM
Ive got a Bachelor's in Culinary Arts with my associates in the same field and just because you have not gone to college is not a bad thing. I am only the second person to graduate from college in my family and they have all done fine. Experience and determination make up a large portion of what makes a person. I have met some really dumb people with bachelors degrees going for masters and then i have met people with a GED who make me think some of my professors were idiots by comparison.
Yep. I have met some really useless people with degrees from Harvard. Higher education these days is more about the ability to pay for it than it is about academic ability. Its how you use your education that matters.

Looking back, I might have chosen a different path but that doesn't mean I would be any happier or more successful. Follow your interest and passion- higher education or not.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Dina on September 03, 2011, 04:30:11 AM
Yep. I have met some really useless people with degrees from Harvard. Higher education these days is more about the ability to pay for it than it is about academic ability. Its how you use your education that matters.

Well, not everywhere. Here many people has to pay for an education because they can't have good grades at the public university.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Madd on September 03, 2011, 06:33:51 AM
Yep. I have met some really useless people with degrees from Harvard. Higher education these days is more about the ability to pay for it than it is about academic ability. Its how you use your education that matters.

Looking back, I might have chosen a different path but that doesn't mean I would be any happier or more successful. Follow your interest and passion- higher education or not.

Lord, you can say that again.  I get looked down upon because A)  I went to a state university, not an Ivy League school, and B)  I'm getting an APPLIED science degree.  /gasp, I'm not purely academic?  I MUST BE USELESS!!!

Never mind that I'm more skilled in the lab than 90% of your average chemistry post docs, and also have the benefit of a couple years experience in industry, as well as being cross trained in biotechnological skill sets.  Snobby SOBs.......
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: shades of grey on September 03, 2011, 02:37:20 PM
Bachelor of Arts in Primary Education and English with Qualified Teacher Status.
Which I don't use.

I've always been more of a jack of all trades, although I do wish I knew more about cars.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Amber on September 03, 2011, 03:45:31 PM
Lord, you can say that again.  I get looked down upon because A)  I went to a state university, not an Ivy League school, and B)  I'm getting an APPLIED science degree.  /gasp, I'm not purely academic?  I MUST BE USELESS!!!

Never mind that I'm more skilled in the lab than 90% of your average chemistry post docs, and also have the benefit of a couple years experience in industry, as well as being cross trained in biotechnological skill sets.  Snobby SOBs.......

You should have seen the look on the chair of my committee's face when I told him that I was going to industry.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: k9doc95 on September 03, 2011, 05:25:59 PM
I've got an AB in Chemistry and a doctorate in Veterinary Medicine and board certification in small animal emergency and critical care medicine.

I am the first person on both sides of my family to earn a doctorate.

My dad (he died in 1995 on my last day of Vet school) was the smartest person I ever met. He finished high school.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Sir Huron Stone on September 03, 2011, 06:26:23 PM
I have a doctorate in Snarkology.  ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: habu987 on September 03, 2011, 06:54:34 PM
I have a doctorate in Snarkology.  ;D

Psshh!  I am the Chair Emeritus of the School of Snarkology at Snark University, the school consistently ranked #1 in the global snarktastic ratings!
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: shades of grey on September 03, 2011, 06:56:01 PM
I have a doctorate in Snarkology.  ;D

So you studied under Shecky then?  After all, he is the professor of snarkology.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Shecky on September 03, 2011, 08:30:09 PM
So you studied under Shecky then?  After all, he is the professor of snarkology.

Paynesgrey is Dean Demeritus of the college. And Habu's school is online-only - while good, there's nothing that replaces face-to-face snarksperience.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: parthagenon on September 03, 2011, 10:08:30 PM
Paynesgrey is Dean Demeritus of the college. And Habu's school is online-only - while good, there's nothing that replaces face-to-face snarksperience.

Can I sign up?  :D

I'm a college freshman, undeclared major but leaning towards Engineering.  Definitely something math/science/computer science/engineering, since my school doesn't offer anything else.   ::)
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Howl on September 04, 2011, 07:47:53 AM
I agree with that, there is nothing wrong with choosing other paths.

I agree with that also. Nothing wrong with that :)

Can I sign up?  :D

I'm a college freshman, undeclared major but leaning towards Engineering.  Definitely something math/science/computer science/engineering, since my school doesn't offer anything else.   ::)

I can already imagine you building mechanical zombies 8)
Seriously very impressive Parth. I'm sure you will kick a** in college.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: shades of grey on September 04, 2011, 10:44:36 AM
Paynesgrey is Dean Demeritus of the college. And Habu's school is online-only - while good, there's nothing that replaces face-to-face snarksperience.
Can I sign up?  :D
We could all be accused of being students of the online university of snarkology.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: FireWorks on September 05, 2011, 05:38:51 PM
We could all be accused of being students of the online university of snarkology.
*nods wisely*
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: T.R.C.C. on September 05, 2011, 11:12:33 PM
Left school with mostly D's and a few C's in my GCSE's. Followed my farther's footsteps in plumbing and I am qualified to NVQ levels 2 and 3. Now Gas Safe ( was CORGI*.) in domestic gas. i.e. house boilers, gas ovens, heaters ext. Just your average plumber.

*Council Of Registered Gas Installers.

Love listening to Snark, but it's a skill I just have'nt picked up.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Snowleopard on September 06, 2011, 09:23:23 AM
I can't snark either T.R.C.C. and there's nothing wrong with being a skilled plumber.
I've come to the conclusion that everyone in the world has something at which they excel.  It might be cleaning house, or organizing, or cooking, or fixing cars, or painting, or being a plumber - but they excel at it. 
In the case of most politicians - it's producing hot air or BS but what can you do. ::)
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Shecky on September 06, 2011, 12:39:28 PM
I can't snark either T.R.C.C. and there's nothing wrong with being a skilled plumber.
I've come to the conclusion that everyone in the world has something at which they excel.  It might be cleaning house, or organizing, or cooking, or fixing cars, or painting, or being a plumber - but they excel at it. 
In the case of most politicians - it's producing hot air or BS but what can you do. ::)

"Nothing wrong"? Are you kidding? A skilled, honest plumber is someone you hang on to like grim death. Like "our" mechanic shop - there's an Aamco two towns over that my wife and I will ALWAYS bring our cars to, even if it means waiting a little longer or paying more than at the bottom-dollar mechanics. Because they always do good work and they always stand behind their work (in the very rare event that it turns out that some of their work turned out not to be the real problem or whatever). And they are always up-front and honest - they tell you exactly what's wrong, what your options are, what it'll take for each option, everything. They may not be the cheapest in town, but day in and day out, you get the absolute best value for your money. Not to mention they're just plain good folks; they've helped me and my friends out in ways that go above and beyond what an auto mechanic is supposed to do, and they're pleasant people to boot. For example, I ran into the front-desk guy in the supermarket the other day. We stood in the aisle and chatted like fishwives for a while, catching up on families and friends.

And THAT is a treasure. People who scorn "mere laborers" suffer from severe rectocranial inversion, because they're the folks who make it possible for everyone to live in civilized comfort. And if they're good people, too? Priceless folks to know, both in terms of service and of quality people.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: MouseWynne on September 06, 2011, 12:44:09 PM
Here, here! Well put Shecky!
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Shecky on September 06, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
Here, here! Well put Shecky!

Yeah. Because it's never a question of what or how much education you have; it's how much learning you've done. One doesn't preclude the other, and one doesn't automatically entail the other, either. People who are good at what they do have learned exactly what they need to learn.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Dina on September 06, 2011, 01:46:07 PM
Exactly Shecky! I had a lot of bad experiences with plumbers and some good ones, and the good plumbers are treasures!
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Howl on September 06, 2011, 02:01:27 PM
Well said Shecky!
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Paynesgrey on September 06, 2011, 04:10:44 PM
You should have seen the look on the chair of my committee's face when I told him that I was going to industry.

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Dr Ray Stantz: Personally, I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of college! You don't know what it's like out there! I've *worked* in the private sector. They expect results!

I've run into a few of this sort.  The Brilliant Learned Doctorate who could wax poetical about his brilliance for hours... but couldn't run a simple PCR to save his soul.  Or make microwave popcorn, come to think of it.  But he was actually a nice guy, if doofety.  His staff just had to be Johnny On The Spot in keeping him from actually touching anything in the lab and diplomatic enough to disaude him without actually saying "No, by God!  You'll ruin the whole wretched batch!"

There was one really Snob Nasty Academic I had a run in with, who pretty much hated veterans and made no bones about it... quite literally stated that veteran status should be considered just cause for barring students from even attending college so "decent people wouldn't have to be exposed to them."  Kipling pretty much had her in mind when he wrote Tommy Atkins. 

That one worked out all sorts of humorous when I paid a call on the  More Bigger Acemickeyer Dean of her department, who neither shared nor appreciated her attitude.  He told me to go to the student union for a while and come back after lunch to see him.  I later heard from what a lady friend who worked in the department offices that it was a one sided discussion conducted in ringing tones, the sort where all the staff in the deparmental offices at the time just stood still and listened with their Oh, Shit Face on.  The result of which was he personally re-graded all of my work and I jumped from an F to an A.  (He's actually a tough grader, I usually got C's and B's when I was in his class.  Her class was one of those Diploma Fluffers you take to fill a block.)  For the rest of the semester she was unfailingly polite and solicitious to the point where she wouldn't have said "crap" if I left one on her desk.  :o

But the majority of the eggheads I've met or personally worked with have been Good Eggs.  I had a real gem when I was studying fine arts.  His stated position was "I'm not here to teach you art.  I am here to teach you technical skills, and to possibly advise  on how to artistically express yourself as we see where your strengths and interests lie as well as what it is you actually desire to express."  He understood that One Doctrine Fits All doesn't do art or artists justice.   (He'd have spanked Clement Greenburg like a sassy little beyotch.)

(I've a bachelor's in business, minor in Parks and Recs of all things.  I once had an interest in the whole Bed and Breakfast sort of thing.  I got better.  I've also got the more than ample credits for an associates, probably a bachelors in both biotech and fine arts, if I ever bothered to put them all together at the same university.  And of course, I work in social services now, which has absolutely no relation to any of my academic training.)
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: FireWorks on September 06, 2011, 05:45:18 PM
"Nothing wrong"? Are you kidding? A skilled, honest plumber is someone you hang on to like grim death. Like "our" mechanic shop - there's an Aamco two towns over that my wife and I will ALWAYS bring our cars to, even if it means waiting a little longer or paying more than at the bottom-dollar mechanics. Because they always do good work and they always stand behind their work (in the very rare event that it turns out that some of their work turned out not to be the real problem or whatever). And they are always up-front and honest - they tell you exactly what's wrong, what your options are, what it'll take for each option, everything. They may not be the cheapest in town, but day in and day out, you get the absolute best value for your money. Not to mention they're just plain good folks; they've helped me and my friends out in ways that go above and beyond what an auto mechanic is supposed to do, and they're pleasant people to boot. For example, I ran into the front-desk guy in the supermarket the other day. We stood in the aisle and chatted like fishwives for a while, catching up on families and friends.

And THAT is a treasure. People who scorn "mere laborers" suffer from severe rectocranial inversion, because they're the folks who make it possible for everyone to live in civilized comfort. And if they're good people, too? Priceless folks to know, both in terms of service and of quality people.
Yeah. Because it's never a question of what or how much education you have; it's how much learning you've done. One doesn't preclude the other, and one doesn't automatically entail the other, either. People who are good at what they do have learned exactly what they need to learn.
Beautiful!  ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: shades of grey on September 06, 2011, 05:49:11 PM
^Yup.

Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Enjorous on September 06, 2011, 05:52:47 PM
Shecky has such a way with words, he should be a linguist or sommat ;)
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: JessE on September 06, 2011, 05:53:50 PM
I'm graduating from high school in May, yay! I've finally spent 14/18ths of my life sitting at a desk being talked at, now I get to graduate and do at least 4 more years of that but in college....something's never change
*head desks*
at least my senior year is pretty easy, except my anatomy class, pretty much everything else is an elective, or band  ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Snowleopard on September 06, 2011, 07:02:22 PM
Shecky, I agree wholeheartedly.  I said what I did because it seemed to me, I could be wrong, that T.R.C.C. sounded a bit defensive or embarrassed by being a plumber.  I did not want him to be.
I was a carpenter at the studios and I stand in awe of craftsmen/laborers of any kind.
I think we're doing kids these days a disservice by making it seem that getting your hands dirty is low class or to be avoided.
PG - Oh the PHD mentality - we had one at my Jr.College - looked like he routinely slept in his clothes and I doubted whether he knew what was going on in the world.  But was, I'm sure, brilliant in his field.  They have book smarts not street or life smarts and those are widely different things.
Would have loved to have been in the office for the 'discussion'.  And good on the Dean.
Your fine arts teacher does indeed sound like a gem.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Dina on September 06, 2011, 07:07:54 PM
Hi PG. We had two of those specimens in the lab. They ruined more PCRs than I can tell and everybody hated work with them. They are nice boys...if they are not working. One is good with computers, though, so now he is doing programmes and a lot of theoretical things. It is going well for everyone. The other is still making coworkers miserable, as he insist in trying to do lab stuff.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Spot on September 06, 2011, 08:51:34 PM
I have a bachelor's in business management, and a master's in e-commerce/e-business strategies. And of course, I chose a career where I use exactly NONE of the skills that I was taught in my university education. :D (I work as a technical writer and usability consultant.)
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: parthagenon on September 06, 2011, 09:01:48 PM
They ruined more PCRs than I can tell

*raises hand guiltily*  That would be me.  My PCRs and such never work out.  Last semester, I accidentally hooked up the electrophoresis machine backwards, and my DNA ran the wrong way and fell off the gel.  :-[ ::)
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Paynesgrey on September 06, 2011, 09:32:03 PM
*raises hand guiltily*  That would be me.  My PCRs and such never work out.  Last semester, I accidentally hooked up the electrophoresis machine backwards, and my DNA ran the wrong way and fell off the gel.  :-[ ::)

I think it's a cosmic law or something that everybody who runs gels does that at least once. 
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Dina on September 06, 2011, 09:40:35 PM
Yes, Parth, PG is right. Everybody has done it at least once! In fact, some of my coworkers still do that from time to time (after years of working)
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Shecky on September 06, 2011, 09:46:36 PM
Shecky, I agree wholeheartedly.  I said what I did because it seemed to me, I could be wrong, that T.R.C.C. sounded a bit defensive or embarrassed by being a plumber.  I did not want him to be.
I was a carpenter at the studios and I stand in awe of craftsmen/laborers of any kind.
I think we're doing kids these days a disservice by making it seem that getting your hands dirty is low class or to be avoided.

Yep, that's cool. It's a stupid move to dismiss or pre-judge anyone of any walk of life based on one narrow-minded view. Don't get me wrong - I've met ignorant, ham-handed mechanics who were interested in beer, p***y and hating people not like them, and I've met ivory-tower academics who sneered in a lordly manner at the "less learnèd" who were "too Neandertal" to do advanced study. There's a reason the stereotypes exist: there ARE those kinds of people in certain professions who leave a strong impression like that. That sort of person should be rejected for their own jackassery, not because they fit a prejudiced stereotype.

Anyone who's paid attention to the world around them instead of just listening to canned stereotypes already knows this. No need for anyone in ANY profession to feel shame just because they do a certain kind of job. The only standards for judgement are ones that Robert Heinlein found: "A whore should be judged by the same criteria as other professionals offering services for pay -- such as dentists, lawyers, hairdressers, physicians, plumbers, etc. Is she professionally competent? Does she give good measure? Is she honest with her clients?" The concept sounds racy, but it's just about the best guide to how we deal with people of almost any path in life.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Yeratel on September 08, 2011, 06:59:14 PM
I started out with a B.A. in Humanities, and worked in a Minor in Business Management, with the goal of being more employable.  Got a job in management, and went back thanks to the company's tuition assisstance benefit to earn a Master of Business Administration, and move up a pay grade or two.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Dina on September 08, 2011, 07:43:37 PM
Any chance to make this thread sticky? It will be close and lost in the oblivion soon, and it so cool to know about the others' formation
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Chiroptera on September 08, 2011, 07:54:02 PM
I've never run DNA off of a gel, but I've blown up my share of agar in a microwave.  :D

My students used to try to put the microscopes back on the shelves before unplugging them at the table.  We built up quite the microscope graveyard.

And I definitely agree that a qualified plumber, carpenter, electrician, mechanic, etc. is an incredibly skilled individual.  You have to know the technical aspects of it and have a really good dose of common sense on top.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Paynesgrey on September 08, 2011, 08:36:57 PM
Any chance to make this thread sticky? It will be close and lost in the oblivion soon, and it so cool to know about the others' formation

It is now sticky, as I have had so few opportunities of late which allow me to run mad with power.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Chiroptera on September 08, 2011, 08:39:21 PM
Ew!  Now I have to wash my hands every time I touch the thread...
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on September 08, 2011, 08:40:17 PM
We thank you oh Grand Muppet of Snarkington.
Knocks head against a wall a couple of times and then staggers off.
Seriously, thanks PG. :D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on September 08, 2011, 08:56:44 PM
It is now sticky, as I have had so few opportunities of late which allow me to run mad with power.

Thank you very much, PG!  :)
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: habu987 on September 08, 2011, 08:58:42 PM
It is now sticky, as I have had so few opportunities of late which allow me to run mad with power.

Thanks a bunch, PG!

Woohoo, I am the proud owner of my very own sticky!!  ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: shades of grey on September 08, 2011, 09:01:01 PM
We thank you oh Gatekeeper of Snarkington.
Knocks head against a wall a couple of times and then staggers off.
Seriously, thanks PG. :D

FIFY.  ;)

Thanks for the sticky, PG.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on September 08, 2011, 09:02:40 PM
"Thanks for the sticky PG."

That sounds vaguely obscene there SoG. ::)
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Dina on September 08, 2011, 09:04:28 PM
Woohoo, I am the proud owner of my very own sticky!!  ;D

Congratulations!  :)
*is happy her request has been welcomed*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: shades of grey on September 08, 2011, 09:05:53 PM
Time to engage comma.

Comma engaged!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on September 08, 2011, 09:12:07 PM
Why am I reminded of a cartoon I have somewhere.
It was for a humorous article in the newspaper.
It shows a guy, sorta dressed like a wizard (pointy hat) and he's holding a shotgun that's been cracked open.
The guy is loading the shotgun from a box labeled - Full Comma load!
On the wall is pinned a document with a shit load of commas on it.
LMAO.  I kept it because I tend to dump a bunch of commas into my writing that probably don't belong there. ::)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: shades of grey on September 08, 2011, 09:13:28 PM
Mine also sometimes masquerade as apostrophes.

So much for my English degree! Lmao.
Title: Re: Edumacation
Post by: Howl on September 08, 2011, 09:43:50 PM
Thanks a bunch, PG!

Woohoo, I am the proud owner of my very own sticky!!  ;D

Congrats! Great idea to make this thread sticky Dina :)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: shades of grey on September 08, 2011, 09:55:44 PM
6ttrygh
(Mr Man says hello.)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on September 08, 2011, 09:56:59 PM
Thanks Howl.
Hello Mr. Man  :D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Howl on September 08, 2011, 10:00:00 PM
*waves to Mr Man*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: shades of grey on September 08, 2011, 10:03:43 PM
He would say more but he's been eating Naga chilli paste.  There doesn't seem to be enough water to dilute the burn.  ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Howl on September 08, 2011, 10:05:26 PM
Tell him to try some cold milk. I think that should help...or make it worse. I'm pretty sure it will help 8)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: shades of grey on September 08, 2011, 10:08:01 PM
He's turned to bread.  :)
It's working, and things are fairly quiet.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on September 08, 2011, 10:08:45 PM
OMG!
I would have suggested milk too.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Revenge of Newton on September 08, 2011, 11:07:10 PM
You all know from my welcome thread; I have a BS in Physics and I'm about to start grad work. For my Masters, cause my grades suck too much to get into a doctorate program. :(
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 10, 2011, 11:41:20 PM
As of January I have my Associate's Degree (after three years of chasing my tail), and I'm going to crunch two semesters to finish my BLS.  From there, six online classes certifies me in Library Science.

And then of course I have a BDV, a BS, an MBS, and a DSW.  That's Bachelor's Degree in DresdenVerse, a Bachelor's Degree in Snark, a Master's Degree in Bull $#*t, and a Doctorate in Star Wars. ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: shades of grey on September 11, 2011, 04:55:41 PM
As of January I have my Associate's Degree (after three years of chasing my tail), and I'm going to crunch two semesters to finish my BLS.  From there, six online classes certifies me in Library Science.

And then of course I have a BDV, a BS, an MBS, and a DSW.  That's Bachelor's Degree in DresdenVerse, a Bachelor's Degree in Snark, a Master's Degree in Bull $#*t, and a Doctorate in Star Wars. ;D

You forgot your liquor license.  ;)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 11, 2011, 09:42:42 PM
You forgot your liquor license.  ;)

Nah.  I've tried various liquors and the only one that appeals to me is Wine.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Blaze on September 12, 2011, 06:15:53 AM
I am also one of those folks who have a high school diploma.  (Circumstances arose that I had to go to work right out of high school, and take care of my Mom, who was ill, so I was the breadwinner!)

I signed up for ever OTJ my employer offered, but most of what I know I learned from books, and people who were kind enough to let me watch them work.  That means that I have (as many of you have witnessed) a bizarre and eclectic skill set!
My enlearnment is dear to me, and something I value highly!  And it just keeps coming!  I would be a ridiculously high point character if you rolled me up!

 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Mishell on September 12, 2011, 01:49:03 PM
College dropout here!  Continually self-educated though.  Also, a graduate of the Clarion writing workshop!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Franziska on September 12, 2011, 02:02:00 PM
I've got a Ph.D in Italian Language and Literature and a Master in Latin Language and Literature. Plus, a Cambridge Certificate of Proficiency in English. Plus, a BD in Social Research. I love languages and I'm trying to learn as many as I can.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: ahra on September 13, 2011, 08:17:39 PM
 have a nursing degree & management( total waste of time , but work paid for it ). also have done the first year of my masters but don't have the will to finish it off . Would love to  go back and do something completely different but working full time it is just too bloody hard   
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: OnlyElise on September 14, 2011, 03:58:40 AM
Holy cats... there is a lot of money spent on higher education on this forum!  :D  lol

I have an Associates in Photography, an Associates in Multimedia Technology, and a Bachelors in Marketing Management.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on September 14, 2011, 04:01:10 AM
Holy cats... there is a lot of money spent on higher education on this forum!  :D  lol

Luckily for me, that is not my case.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Alilisa on September 14, 2011, 04:57:33 AM
Shecky's right, I got my AA in written Journalism, however all my experience has gotten me jobs writing for newspapers above those who have Masters and Bachelors degrees in the same field, because I started writing for various papers, etc long before I graduated and they put that towards my credit when looking for a reporter. 

I started college in 1975, Sept, and finally graduated in 1993, but that doesn't mean Im a failure, not by a long ways.  During that time I married, raised 2 kids, founded an organization that built the largest accessible/integrated and most accessible/integrated playground in the world (May, 1993-completion), and during that time helped raise over $160,000.00 towards the building of the playground which has become the model for accessible playgrounds world-wide.  It's won 7 awards (national/state/local) and I, myself was chosen as 1 of 3 people from WI for People Magazine's All-Stars Among Us in 2010. 

This is the site for our playground, something that I did all the speeches, media for which was built with 2,700-3,000 volunteers and with the amount of donations we received is worth over $600,000.00.  http://camdenplayground.tripod.com/MAINPAGE/index.html

Ok, so there you go, you don't need a Bachelor's degree or a Masters degree...all you need is inspiration to go places, and I'm proof of that. :)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Blaze on September 14, 2011, 06:08:39 AM
Yay!  Alilisa has a good point!  We also need to revel in all our accomplishments, as well!  Not all those can be measured in dollars, either!   

Many of you know that Threshold, my BFF, rescues and socializes feral kittens.  There are no degrees or public accolades that go with that, but if you measure the improvement in each small creatures life, and in the love brought to a new human family when she rehomes them?  How can you place a dollar amount on that?

So many people on this forum help other people out, do good when and where ever than can! 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on September 14, 2011, 07:32:45 AM
Pay it forward.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Howl on September 14, 2011, 08:45:25 AM
I knew you were a Journalist Alilisa and that you were awesome. But you are even more awesome than I thought, very impressive and gret work Ali! :)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Alilisa on September 14, 2011, 05:54:51 PM
Thank you, Howl, ((Howl)), if not for my nephew who has special needs, this never would have happened. Just an example of how you take what seems to be bad and turn it into good.  The playground opened the doors for people like my nephew, allowing them more freedom then ever though, plus it's allowed those who normally wouldn't be around children/adults with special needs to grab that opportunity, thus eliminating the prejudism which existed.  That's what happened in our city and it's wonderful!

You're right, SL, pay it forward.  For any good done to or for you, pass it on, and sooner or later it'll move like a wave. 

It costs nothing and hey even a smile can make a huge difference in whether or not someone ends their life, you could be an unspoken hero and not even know it.  So like SL said, pay it forward, it's well worth it, and the sense of knowing you helped someone is far more valuable then any notice for what you'd done.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on September 14, 2011, 07:20:01 PM
Wow Alilisa, what you did is so amazing  :D :D I want to hug you now more than ever, and I ever want to  :D
I was in the website, but I have to tell you, I hate the blue letters against the blue sky. But I'll promise I will read it when I arrive home.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Alilisa on September 14, 2011, 08:09:56 PM
:D I tried it with black against the blue and had others complain because it "didn't blend", I'm like geesh....but I changed it and they liked it so that's what I ended up with.  :)  thank you, I really loved doing something for my nephew (which is what it started out to be, so he could enjoy the playground like my kids and his brothers. 

To see him just stand there and laugh, clapping his hands watching, just wasn't fair. And then I thought of the parents with special needs who hadn't been able to take their own kids to the park for a day, and the elderly who needed a place to get away from nursing homes, etc...and that's the result.)

I'd gotten a call from a woman who'd taken her young daughter (her daughter was in a wheelchair) to the park and the daughter went between the horizontal bars (placed at wheelchair width), and for the first time in her life, stood up from her wheelchair and took several steps.  She'd never before done that, and then we got a letter from a guy who'd taken his son up on the ramping system and until that time, never realized his own child had never been that far up off the ground in the open like that.  He loved it.  It's stories like that which make you know that you've accomplished something wonderful.  My own nephew, Camden, actually said "swing" when he went into the playground, the first time he'd ever said that word in his life, and he was 18 at the time.)

Whoa, I really ramble on, I could talk forever about the playground, it has gone far beyond what we expected, to have models worldwide is amazing.  Thank you again, Dina ((Dina)) Hug away ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on September 14, 2011, 08:21:29 PM
You have every right to ramble  :). You did a wonderful job and "listening" to you makes one wish to do something for people with that problems. ((Ali))
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Blaze on September 14, 2011, 08:54:34 PM
We did that here, too! The result was called Kinderland, and it is over twenty years old now, and is still a great place to take kids to play!  The only image I have is tiny:  (http://ci.kingston.ny.us/images/forseythepark.jpg)

It was a wonderful melding of just plain folks and the city.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Alilisa on September 14, 2011, 11:47:21 PM
:)  That's what we'd hoped would happen, once people started asking for information on the playground.  Because we had nothing to go on, I wrote a booklet that is now in several libraries and has been sent out all around the world to help others build accessible playgrounds like this.  The most accessible before ours was only 40% accessible, we brought that up to 100% accessible, that in itself was a breakthrough for so many.  Had people from all over working on it, the furthest away was England, he put the dragon up on the castle. He passed away not too long ago, such a nice man.

nice, is that a Leathers playground, Blaze? The techniques used reminds me of theirs.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Blaze on September 15, 2011, 01:22:48 AM
Gosh, it was almost 30 years ago now!  I don't recall!  LOL
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Alilisa on September 15, 2011, 01:32:46 AM
:D  Understandable, definitely, but it looks like a gorgeous playground.  When you get volunteers together, you can do anything!!  So glad you had the chance to take part in such a wonderful project. :)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: MrsAWiggins05 on September 15, 2011, 04:22:00 AM
I haven't read the whole thread yet, and though I can clearly see it's now about playgrounds (?) my answer to Habu is:

I hate these degree checks. Because I'm not Shecky, though I like him much.

I have a regular high school diploma that was .002 away from being Valedictorian and .001 from Salutatorian. I'm the frustrated third place in class.
And then, to add insult to injury, I had to actually work my way through college, but never found enough funds. So, I have three years of Special Education for Early Development and Elementary Education under my belt. I am about 20 hours shy of a Bachelor's. And a few tests away from having my certification. But I won't obtain either in the foreseeable future because... I have even less money than I did when I quit school nine years ago.

So, I'm just an underachieving, quitting stay-at-home-mom and part time bus driver. When what I really want to be doing is teaching special education.

I'm not bitter. Really. Just very, very frustrated that I'm stuck unable to achieve my goals because I'm still stinking poor. Oh, and all those promises that Obama would give money to stay-at-home-moms who wanted to get their degrees? Yeah, that's a lottery. My ONE ticket against hundreds of thousands of others? Hasn't happened yet.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Madd on September 15, 2011, 06:31:13 AM
I haven't read the whole thread yet, and though I can clearly see it's now about playgrounds (?) my answer to Habu is:

I hate these degree checks. Because I'm not Shecky, though I like him much.

I have a regular high school diploma that was .002 away from being Valedictorian and .001 from Salutatorian. I'm the frustrated third place in class.
And then, to add insult to injury, I had to actually work my way through college, but never found enough funds. So, I have three years of Special Education for Early Development and Elementary Education under my belt. I am about 20 hours shy of a Bachelor's. And a few tests away from having my certification. But I won't obtain either in the foreseeable future because... I have even less money than I did when I quit school nine years ago.

So, I'm just an underachieving, quitting stay-at-home-mom and part time bus driver. When what I really want to be doing is teaching special education.

I'm not bitter. Really. Just very, very frustrated that I'm stuck unable to achieve my goals because I'm still stinking poor. Oh, and all those promises that Obama would give money to stay-at-home-moms who wanted to get their degrees? Yeah, that's a lottery. My ONE ticket against hundreds of thousands of others? Hasn't happened yet.

I graduated 15 of 29 students.  Feel better? lol

I know what you mean about having to work your way through college.  I've been exceedingly poor for a long time now (most of my life truth be told) so I had to work as well, which of course makes getting A's a helluva lot harder.  In fact, it made getting B's a rare occurrence.  I'm not sure what the point of my post is....I guess just to say you aren't alone and to offer some support.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on September 15, 2011, 08:10:41 AM
If you don't have the money - you can't do certain things so don't beat yourself up.
And being a stay at home mom and part time bus driver does NOT make you an underachiever.
Being a stay at home mom is like having two full time jobs simultaneously - that's not any kind of
underachieving.  And being a bus driver is hard as far as I'm concerned.
I will keep fingers and toes crossed that you can achieve your goal of being a special ed teacher.
But don't put yourself down.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shecky on September 15, 2011, 10:43:58 AM
One thing I have to share from my time teaching at the college level: having a student who also worked to put him/herself through college was almost always something professors liked, because they were always hard workers who were there because they WANTED to be there. I say "almost always" because, as with any other profession, there are professors who are pinheads and don't realize basic truths like this. :)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: MouseWynne on September 15, 2011, 12:29:53 PM
MrsAW - You are a fulltime Mom? That's not a losers job by a longshot! I hope you'll get the time and money to fulfill your dream but in the meantime don't let anyone tell you that you
are an underachiever!  Raising children to be interesting, well balanced, adults is the hardest job in the world!

Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: MrsAWiggins05 on September 15, 2011, 03:35:36 PM
Blaze sent me a lovely little message telling me not to be stupid. (My words, not hers, of course. :-) )

I've read the whole thread now that I've had time, and I found it highly enlightening and entertaining.

I've never had DNA fall off a gel because I am not scientifically inclined. Though, I'm sure Mr. Wiggins has made a mistake or two like that. He's a food microbiologist, though, and you seriously don't want me to tell you what he works with every day.

Like Alilisa and Blaze, my list of accomplishments, on the job training, and self-education have far exceeded any lack of formal degree pursuit. But when it's midnight after a long day of running errands with three whiny brats, it's hard to remember that I am not a title, degree, or a diploma. I am a person that cannot be summed up by a few formals words on a piece of paper.

I apologize. I really should have my computer and phone taken away at 10:30 p.m., because all common sense and discretion and self-esteem checks out then.

Oh, and I decided that I have at least a BDV and a MS (master of Sarcasm).
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: MouseWynne on September 15, 2011, 03:44:58 PM
There you go! You have better degrees than I do! ;D

Cheers and may your children be all sweetness and light for you today! 8)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 15, 2011, 06:17:04 PM
I have a regular high school diploma that was .002 away from being Valedictorian and .001 from Salutatorian. I'm the frustrated third place in class.
And then, to add insult to injury, I had to actually work my way through college, but never found enough funds.

Wait a second.  You were third in your class, had (I'm assuming based on my own class' Valet/Salut) higher than a 4.0, and you couldn't get any scholarships?  I'm sorry to bring this up again, but WTH is with that?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: MrsAWiggins05 on September 15, 2011, 06:23:50 PM
Wait a second.  You were third in your class, had (I'm assuming based on my own class' Valet/Salut) higher than a 4.0, and you couldn't get any scholarships?  I'm sorry to bring this up again, but WTH is with that?

I went to a small private high school that didn't have AP classes. So, my gpa was 3.908. One measly B one measly semester of Algebra 2. Sheesh.

I qualified for millions of scholarships, especially with my ethnic background/extra curricular activities. But only one scholarship was actually awarded to me, though I applied for hundreds of them. And it was a pathetic scholarship that basically just paid for my books each semester. Last year, when I tried to go back, despite everything good going for me, No One would give me a scholarship. Once again, I had applied for hundreds of scholarships I qualified for, and they kept awarding them to other people.

The system is jacked. A lower-middle class works-for-a-living person can't get help. We make too much money, even though we barely keep food on the table.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on September 15, 2011, 07:40:15 PM
^
Yeah, verily yeah.
Oh so true.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Madd on September 15, 2011, 09:29:35 PM
I went to a small private high school that didn't have AP classes. So, my gpa was 3.908. One measly B one measly semester of Algebra 2. Sheesh.

I qualified for millions of scholarships, especially with my ethnic background/extra curricular activities. But only one scholarship was actually awarded to me, though I applied for hundreds of them. And it was a pathetic scholarship that basically just paid for my books each semester. Last year, when I tried to go back, despite everything good going for me, No One would give me a scholarship. Once again, I had applied for hundreds of scholarships I qualified for, and they kept awarding them to other people.

The system is jacked. A lower-middle class works-for-a-living person can't get help. We make too much money, even though we barely keep food on the table.

Amen to that.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 15, 2011, 10:05:31 PM
hear hear
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Sean 'Bjørn' Blackstone on September 16, 2011, 06:27:16 PM
Ima gots me's some lernins to do yet, Im a senior in highschool.
I, like many others though, have a PHD in BS.
Future Education: Berklee School Of Music Production, maybe I'll major in english and graphics design at a local college or university if I get bored later in life.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: OnlyElise on September 16, 2011, 07:42:06 PM
I personally find it amusing that I have a BS in marketing. HA!!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on September 16, 2011, 10:45:12 PM
^
LMAO
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on September 18, 2011, 02:37:25 AM
I'm about 94% through my BSc in food science, and I might go into wine science next year...mayyyyybe look at doing an MSc.
Hoping to graduate march next year, if I don't bomb out on my last 4 subjects...and it's not looking very good for a few of them ATM :(

and yes. Food science is a degree.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: k9doc95 on September 18, 2011, 02:14:01 PM
IC - your degree sounds cool to me. Is it about the science of cooking or is it more like animal nutrition? A lot of veterinarians are required to do classes in ruminant nutrition before vet school but I think your stuff sounds way more interesting then when I got to learn about silage and haylage and all that jazz.

What is wine science? Do you get to make wine, taste wine - do you then become a sommelier? That would be so cool!! I love food and wine.

I wish I had taken advantage of some of the interesting classes I could have taken when I was an undergrad all I could think about was vet school so I think I shortchanged myself on learning stuff just for the joy of learning. Now I wish I had time to audit some classes or the energy to take some on line for fun but work pretty much fills my day.

You sound like a really dedicated student and I bet you are going to be a huge success!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Howl on September 18, 2011, 07:31:01 PM
Icecreams degree is awesome, as are the classes she has. And wine science sounds interesting.
You are a very dedicated student Icecream and I will be sending you good vibes that you pass your last 4 subjects. :)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: MrsAWiggins05 on September 19, 2011, 01:06:26 AM
Mr. Wiggins's degree is food science. But it's food micro, which although interesting, is disgusting.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Paynesgrey on September 19, 2011, 03:31:02 AM
Microbiology: where you learn fascinating and revolting secrets of the culinary universe, never want to eat again, and then decide you could go for a really nice smoked cheddar and a beer.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Chiroptera on September 19, 2011, 04:01:21 AM
I remember grossing out some fellow diners once when eating mussels right after I had dissected them in a lab - they didn't appreciate my describing the anatomy of what they were eating.

On the other hand, I can always tell when I'm having dinner with fellow wildlife type people because we have no problem talking about necropsies, carcasses, and larva between mouthfuls of food.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Blaze on September 19, 2011, 05:35:26 AM
*LOL*  I can talk about bringing the chicken to the table from "Cluck to Pluck" but most people won't thank me for it! 

On another note, my eldest niece put herself through art school by being a sommelier!  She got to travel Europe buying wine, and seeing all the great art! 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Howl on September 19, 2011, 07:44:13 AM
Mr. Wiggins's degree is food science. But it's food micro, which although interesting, is disgusting.

That is interesting but the less I know about the happier I am and can enjoy food ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on September 19, 2011, 08:12:40 AM
The old TV show Quincy about a morgue doctor.
Used to love when he and a friend would go into another friend's bar and then proceed to talk shop being
completely unaware of the bar emptying out around them.
Actually read that a real British Morgue doctor and his associates would do the same thing to a restaurant they frequented.  Not exactly the lunch time conversation you want to be hearing over your roast beef. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on September 19, 2011, 10:19:39 AM
IC - your degree sounds cool to me. Is it about the science of cooking or is it more like animal nutrition? A lot of veterinarians are required to do classes in ruminant nutrition before vet school but I think your stuff sounds way more interesting then when I got to learn about silage and haylage and all that jazz.

What is wine science? Do you get to make wine, taste wine - do you then become a sommelier? That would be so cool!! I love food and wine.

I wish I had taken advantage of some of the interesting classes I could have taken when I was an undergrad all I could think about was vet school so I think I shortchanged myself on learning stuff just for the joy of learning. Now I wish I had time to audit some classes or the energy to take some on line for fun but work pretty much fills my day.

You sound like a really dedicated student and I bet you are going to be a huge success!
It's like the structure of food how to preserve it, sensory (tasting etc) and that , we do biochem, organic chem, analytical chem , chemmat and stats papers. ATM my last papers are human nutrition, food micro , food preservation and product development, actually I'm trying a coconut ice cream recipe right now for that course. Anyway wine science it's studying the wine looking at how it develops, how certain flavours/aromas form and involves making your own wine (even better is it's on Waiheke island on the univeristy's newly acquired winery!), apparently people with this degree are sort after in places like California, I told mum this, she said if I ever went to america she'd slip drugs into my bag as I boarded the plane.

Microbiology: where you learn fascinating and revolting secrets of the culinary universe, never want to eat again, and then decide you could go for a really nice smoked cheddar and a beer.
Yip, Doing food micro right now. Beer's a safe bet I think, or at least it was the safer alternative back in the middle ages. Actually I'm on the topic of beer right now for micro, learning how to make it, the difference between lagers and ales etc.
That is interesting but the less I know about the happier I am and can enjoy food ;D
This is very true, I mean you would'nt want to know about the haemorrhgic diarrhea and possible kidney pailure from E.coli O157:H7 poisoning (and worse the O104:H4 fromthe bean sprouts in Germany) which happens when faeces come in contact with your food. It might ruin your eating experience next time you don't wash your lettuce properly. >:)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: DoTArchon on September 19, 2011, 10:44:01 AM
It might ruin your eating experience next time you don't wash your lettuce properly. >:)

Thanks for that... I'm never eating salad again  ;)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on September 19, 2011, 10:49:27 AM
Wanna know about shellfish?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: DoTArchon on September 19, 2011, 11:51:22 AM
No thanks. I enjoy my shellfish :P
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Paynesgrey on September 19, 2011, 03:02:23 PM
It's like the structure of food how to preserve it, sensory (tasting etc) and that , we do biochem, organic chem, analytical chem , chemmat and stats papers. ATM my last papers are human nutrition, food micro , food preservation and product development, actually I'm trying a coconut ice cream recipe right now for that course. Anyway wine science it's studying the wine looking at how it develops, how certain flavours/aromas form and involves making your own wine (even better is it's on Waiheke island on the univeristy's newly acquired winery!), apparently people with this degree are sort after in places like California, I told mum this, she said if I ever went to america she'd slip drugs into my bag as I boarded the plane.
 Yip, Doing food micro right now. Beer's a safe bet I think, or at least it was the safer alternative back in the middle ages. Actually I'm on the topic of beer right now for micro, learning how to make it, the difference between lagers and ales etc.  This is very true, I mean you would'nt want to know about the haemorrhgic diarrhea and possible kidney pailure from E.coli O157:H7 poisoning (and worse the O104:H4 fromthe bean sprouts in Germany) which happens when faeces come in contact with your food. It might ruin your eating experience next time you don't wash your lettuce properly. >:)

We've got a number of brewers, myself included.  Maybe I'll start a stickey about brewing.  Technically, it should live in "Story of Us", but Mac's is the fun place to put it.....
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: k9doc95 on September 19, 2011, 03:06:10 PM
IC- that is just down right cool. I do love a good microbology discussion. My husband is a computer guy and is now accustomed to my gross table conversation but I do have to remind myself to stick to neutral topics when out to dinner.

I can still gross my husband out on occasion. I pulled a cuterebra (basically a great big maggot) out of a kitten's neck the other day and that got to him. Kitten did great by the way...
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enjorous on September 19, 2011, 03:10:18 PM
I have to admit k9doc, that's pretty gross. Glad the kitten's alright.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: k9doc95 on September 19, 2011, 03:55:25 PM
Enj-

  It is kinda nasty but I have to say it a favorite problem of mine because I know I can fix it. We don't see them that often in small animal medicine but you get to be a hero (for a brief moment in time) and that is fun.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Howl on September 19, 2011, 04:10:41 PM
IC- that is just down right cool. I do love a good microbology discussion. My husband is a computer guy and is now accustomed to my gross table conversation but I do have to remind myself to stick to neutral topics when out to dinner.

I can still gross my husband out on occasion. I pulled a cuterebra (basically a great big maggot) out of a kitten's neck the other day and that got to him. Kitten did great by the way...

That is really gross :o

It might ruin your eating experience next time you don't wash your lettuce properly. >:)

You are evil, but I prefer tomatoe salad, not lettuce :P
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enjorous on September 19, 2011, 04:23:38 PM
Enj-

  It is kinda nasty but I have to say it a favorite problem of mine because I know I can fix it. We don't see them that often in small animal medicine but you get to be a hero (for a brief moment in time) and that is fun.

I thought vet's were always heroes? At least they are in my world.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: OnlyElise on September 19, 2011, 04:26:44 PM
Yeah, what Enj said.  :D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: k9doc95 on September 19, 2011, 05:28:06 PM
Enj and OE: Thanks very much. I wish I always got to be a hero too, but some people can be antagonistic when their animals are ill. I attribute it to stress - it is scary and overwhelming but sometimes they forget that I didn't give the animal the problem I am just the one trying to fix it.

Of course, I also have some super fabulous incredible clients that are fun to work with but when push comes to shove as long as I can do right by the animal I am happy.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on September 19, 2011, 06:46:52 PM
IC- that is just down right cool. I do love a good microbology discussion. My husband is a computer guy and is now accustomed to my gross table conversation but I do have to remind myself to stick to neutral topics when out to dinner.

I can still gross my husband out on occasion. I pulled a cuterebra (basically a great big maggot) out of a kitten's neck the other day and that got to him. Kitten did great by the way...


Oooooh I want to see a video of that.:D Poor kitty, must've felt alot better after you took it out though.

Ok I better do my prelab for today, cheese making today.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on September 19, 2011, 07:02:17 PM
I thought vet's were always heroes? At least they are in my world.

I'm with Enj.  Vet's have always been heroes in my books.
K9 - why should a client get shirty with you about their pet's illness.  Like you said - you didn't give it to the poor beast.  I wonder if they get pissy because they're mad at the animal and you're just convenient.
Glad to hear that the kitten is okay.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shecky on September 19, 2011, 07:56:58 PM
I'm with Enj.  Vet's have always been heroes in my books.
K9 - why should a client get shirty with you about their pet's illness.  Like you said - you didn't give it to the poor beast.  I wonder if they get pissy because they're mad at the animal and you're just convenient.
Glad to hear that the kitten is okay.

I can sort of understand (if not empathize with) why people get snappish about their pets at the vet's office. They're worried sick - lots of people are just as attached to their pets as lots of people are to their children. Pets are FAMILY. And some people, when they get worried for someone they care about - human or animal- they get aggressive.

Doesn't make it any better, doesn't make it any smarter - and it's especially tough on the vets who mostly work tirelessly and without the compensation or general public recognition of their work (which is harder than for human-being doctors - humans can at least tell you where and how it hurts) that human-being doctors get automatically. Human-being doctors also tend not to get lashed out at nearly as much, because of the aforementioned pedestal. So vets get a disproportionate amount of grief.

It sucks. And it's unfair. But that's why.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: k9doc95 on September 19, 2011, 08:01:57 PM
Snow-
   Usually they get mad when you tell them something they don't want to hear. A lot of people come to the emergency room with their pets and they seem not to want the opinion of a vet but instead to hear that Dr. Google is right and their pet will be fine with xyz treatment. When you advise them that Dr. Google didn't go to vet school and is sadly incorrect they can get a little bent out of shape. Like I said, most of the time it is the stress talking.

I don't have a video of the kitten - wish I did. She was a stray and one of the other docs and I paid for her care and then we found an awesome home for her. Her new owner sent me a card with some great pics the other day. I keep it in my happy file. Most vets have a happy file. I keep every thank you note I have ever received and when I have a bad day I pull it out and read the cards and remember that I have helped people and their animals.

Actually, if I could have kept that kitten for myself I would have but the husband vetoed me. I did get to carry her around the hospital and snuggle for almost a full week before she was ready to go to her new home.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Chiroptera on September 19, 2011, 08:03:33 PM
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I can still gross my husband out on occasion. I pulled a cuterebra (basically a great big maggot) out of a kitten's neck the other day and that got to him. Kitten did great by the way...

Botfly!  We found a lot of those on the rodents we caught while small mammal trapping.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: k9doc95 on September 19, 2011, 08:07:07 PM
Shecky- Got it in one although I think human docs get a rough ride, too sometimes. I can not begin to imagine what it is like to deal with family members in an ER with a critically ill family member. Holy stress batman!!

On the positive side, vets enjoy food and are often rewarded with baked goods by their clients.

And we get to work on really wonderful creatures. I have a little dapple doxie in hospital today that I could spend all day snuggling with. And I have a super cool boxer who has the softest ears ever and he gives kisses but he likes my tech more than me. I got one little kiss and she got a whole face wash:) He is going home later today after some rather injudicious dietary choices that landed him in the OR.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: k9doc95 on September 19, 2011, 08:09:14 PM
Chiro-

   YUP!! Gross but not nearly as bad as a full maggot infestation. Nuf said.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on September 20, 2011, 02:17:36 AM
Snow-
   Usually they get mad when you tell them something they don't want to hear. A lot of people come to the emergency room with their pets and they seem not to want the opinion of a vet but instead to hear that Dr. Google is right and their pet will be fine with xyz treatment. When you advise them that Dr. Google didn't go to vet school and is sadly incorrect they can get a little bent out of shape. Like I said, most of the time it is the stress talking.

I don't have a video of the kitten - wish I did. She was a stray and one of the other docs and I paid for her care and then we found an awesome home for her. Her new owner sent me a card with some great pics the other day. I keep it in my happy file. Most vets have a happy file. I keep every thank you note I have ever received and when I have a bad day I pull it out and read the cards and remember that I have helped people and their animals.

Actually, if I could have kept that kitten for myself I would have but the husband vetoed me. I did get to carry her around the hospital and snuggle for almost a full week before she was ready to go to her new home.

Daaww.  That's good to hear.  Well, whatever your clients may think - you are a hero in my books K9.
By the by, googled Cuterebra - and all I have to say is -- EWWW, EWWWW, EWWWW, EWWWWWWWW!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shecky on September 20, 2011, 02:40:08 AM
Shecky- Got it in one although I think human docs get a rough ride, too sometimes. I can not begin to imagine what it is like to deal with family members in an ER with a critically ill family member. Holy stress batman!!

The difference is that, as a rule, human doctors have this "I don't have to tell you anything" thing going on and will too often stand behind it, with staff members running interference. Vets, on the other hand, I've never seen do less than full, honest disclosure. Which, of course, opens them up to that segment that translates worry and stress into aggressiveness and confrontation a lot more than the behind-the-wall human doctors.

This is, of course, not universal; there are plenty of exceptions to both. But that's the way I've learned to bet.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: DominicJ on September 20, 2011, 10:05:52 AM
A levels in Maths (I'm sure Differentiation of Complex Compound Double Angle forumla broke my brain), Physics, Computing (Database Normalisation really did break my brain) and Accounting are as far as I got academicaly, I also did about three weeks of the third year of an "accounting" degree, but sort of snapped as my lecturers were insisting that "sub prime was contained" and dropped out.  Since weeks later, the worlds banking system blew up, I maintain I was the lecturer and they the student, alas, the University disagreed and refuses to pay me, or give me a degree.

So I'm an accounting technician by professional qualification, and really should get my arse in gear and do CIMA.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Breedeeteedee on September 23, 2011, 06:18:50 PM
Well this thread seemed as good a spot as any to post for my very first time on the boards. I must say I've been ever so slightly intimidated by the brainitude and smartiness of everyone here, which is why I've lurked for so long. That being said, I learned long ago that what type of sheepskin hangs on your wall isn't necessarily a good measurement of the size of one's brainpan.

So. I'm a gen-yoo-wine high school graj-ee-ate! I've gone on to university three times. I've dropped out three times. I've usually got a fairly good reason for it but the truth is I simply can't decide what to go to school for and spending thousands of dollars on something I might not even like when I get to the end just irks me to no end.

~Breedeeteedee
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Warden John Marcone on September 23, 2011, 06:35:10 PM
So. I'm a gen-yoo-wine high school graj-ee-ate! I've gone on to university three times. I've dropped out three times. I've usually got a fairly good reason for it but the truth is I simply can't decide what to go to school for and spending thousands of dollars on something I might not even like when I get to the end just irks me to no end.

~Breedeeteedee

Absolootly nutt'n wrong wi'dat.  I hope you find what you're after.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on September 23, 2011, 09:20:29 PM
Well this thread seemed as good a spot as any to post for my very first time on the boards. I must say I've been ever so slightly intimidated by the brainitude and smartiness of everyone here, which is why I've lurked for so long. That being said, I learned long ago that what type of sheepskin hangs on your wall isn't necessarily a good measurement of the size of one's brainpan.

So. I'm a gen-yoo-wine high school graj-ee-ate! I've gone on to university three times. I've dropped out three times. I've usually got a fairly good reason for it but the truth is I simply can't decide what to go to school for and spending thousands of dollars on something I might not even like when I get to the end just irks me to no end.

~Breedeeteedee

yip , agreed, nothing wrong with that. The smartest thing to do in any case s something you enjoy and hopefully has employment at the end.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Howl on September 24, 2011, 02:22:25 PM
I agree with Icecream and WJM. Nothing wrong with that, I hope you do find what your are interested in. :)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: TheWinterEmissary on September 25, 2011, 09:59:09 AM
I thought vet's were always heroes?

Sadly, no.

I'm sure that the vast majority are, but not all.  There's one vet in my neighborhood who seemingly can't put an animal down except in a way that imo constitutes animal cruelty, and this is absolutely judged based on more than one incidence.  I can't imagine that the process is supposed to consist of the pet being stabbed many times with a needle (into the double digits) because the vet can't find/reach the vein, and attempts it in a way that conveys carelessness.  Is the animal really supposed to be crying, and thrashing for over ten minutes? 

If that's really what's expected then I guess they were doing their job, but I didn't see anything heroic about it. 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: TheWinterEmissary on September 25, 2011, 10:18:13 AM
Well this thread seemed as good a spot as any to post for my very first time on the boards. I must say I've been ever so slightly intimidated by the brainitude and smartiness of everyone here, which is why I've lurked for so long. That being said, I learned long ago that what type of sheepskin hangs on your wall isn't necessarily a good measurement of the size of one's brainpan.

Welcome! 

And I completely agree.  School measures the ability to do certain things.  People who can perform well at them can be quite unintelligent in many ways.  And people who struggle in school can be extremely intelligent in ways that the educational establishment has zero interest in. 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shecky on September 25, 2011, 01:05:28 PM
And the contrary can be quite true as well. Schoolin' simply can't be taken as a measure of social judgement - the stereotype of the book-nerd who is dumb at everything else is just as much to be avoided as is the stereotype of the non-formally-educated being just dumb. We can't automatically draw conclusions either way.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Jinn Master on September 25, 2011, 06:59:20 PM
I'm working on a BA in Classics.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on September 25, 2011, 07:40:34 PM
Sadly, no.

I'm sure that the vast majority are, but not all.  There's one vet in my neighborhood who seemingly can't put an animal down except in a way that imo constitutes animal cruelty, and this is absolutely judged based on more than one incidence.  I can't imagine that the process is supposed to consist of the pet being stabbed many times with a needle (into the double digits) because the vet can't find/reach the vein, and attempts it in a way that conveys carelessness.  Is the animal really supposed to be crying, and thrashing for over ten minutes? 

If that's really what's expected then I guess they were doing their job, but I didn't see anything heroic about it.

The Process doesn't.  Something is very, very wrong there.  Either the person is untrained in that area or doesn't want to do.  (I don't really want to think of the third option - that they might actually want to inflect pain.)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: OnlyElise on September 25, 2011, 08:02:49 PM
There's a Veterinarians Association right??? Some board that can look at what this person is doing?? Mr. Bruno had to have shots in all four legs before our vet could find a vein to administer the chemical to put him to sleep, but he was practically unconscious when it happened, and she's been our vet for years and we know she's fantastic.

That makes me sick.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: TheWinterEmissary on September 26, 2011, 07:53:49 AM
And the contrary can be quite true as well.

Yeah, I didn't include that because I think that it's pretty well likely to be taken as a given. 

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Schoolin' simply can't be taken as a measure of social judgement - the stereotype of the book-nerd who is dumb at everything else is just as much to be avoided as is the stereotype of the non-formally-educated being just dumb. We can't automatically draw conclusions either way.

I think that all of the generalizations are a bad idea.  Someone could be a great people person and a great lawyer (one attribute in the "book learning" category and one attribute in the "street smart/real world" learning category), but they could stink at other facets of each like chemistry and driving a car.  I think that the truth is that there are a wide variety of skills, and some people are likely average in a lot of them, while others excel more in some areas but are weak in others.  I hold no shame in admitting that for me most forms of art are not a strong suit. 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: TheWinterEmissary on September 26, 2011, 08:23:37 AM
The Process doesn't.  Something is very, very wrong there.  Either the person is untrained in that area or doesn't want to do.  (I don't really want to think of the third option - that they might actually want to inflect pain.)

I don't know where the truth lies, but the vet has been in business there for over 10 years, so even if he started out untrained I have to believe that he had the opportunity to become so over such a long period of time. 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on September 26, 2011, 09:12:55 AM
If he did that to one of my animals I would report his ass to every group I could think of.
From the BBB to the Humane Society.  That's just wrong.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: TheWinterEmissary on September 26, 2011, 09:51:26 AM
I didn't think of it at the time.  It was my family's pet, but I hadn't spent much time with her in a long while (over a decade) as I had moved out years earlier.  My parents had gone through something similar with an earlier cat, and at the time they talked to a few others in the neighborhood who made similar claims.  I couldn't believe that they wanted to take this second cat to the same vet, but they said that otherwise things seemed okay, they had already paid, and maybe the first had been a fluke or the vet had changed. 

But my experience seemed just as horrible.  The cat was about 17, and obviously failing badly physically, but she still seemed pretty alert mentally.  My parents were too upset to take her in, so they instructed me.  I wish that I had gone somewhere else and lied, but they were a lot more familiar with the situation than I was.  I tried to comfort her, tell her it would be okay and stroke her, but she was thrashing and it was just shocking that the vet kept injecting her and saying again and again that he had to "do it one more time".  I really started to question him and eventually he "got it right".  I felt extra badly that I wasn't really a loved one for her, and that she should have had better.  But it was too late to do anything more to help her, so I did my best to be comforting until she obviously was clearly gone, and then I immediately left. 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on September 26, 2011, 09:56:16 AM
I repeat there is something seriously wrong there.  I've been with several animals that were put to sleep and they just drifted off - no struggling or thrashing.  They'd had a shot to sedate them and then the euthenasia shot was given into a vein.
Either that vet is clueless, he's using the wrong or too weak a chemical or he wants to inflict pain.
He NEEDS to be reported to someone NOW!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Howl on September 26, 2011, 09:58:26 AM
That is horrible. I agree with Snow, you should report it to someone. Especially if things like that happened before!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: TheWinterEmissary on September 26, 2011, 10:10:02 AM
Alright, I'll look into it.  I don't live in the area and this was a couple of years ago, so he might not be there anymore.  But I'll check into it.

At the time I just didn't think of that, it was my first time going through that process with a vet and I didn't know exactly how it was supposed to work.  I just knew that it was very upsetting and I wanted to leave asap, though again, not until after I was sure that she was gone. 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Vairelome on September 26, 2011, 12:50:45 PM
I have a B.S. in Biology with a minor in Linguistics and a J.D.  I've run PCRs (for the biologists in the thread :) ) and Noam Chomsky guest-lectured for a day in my Intro to Linguistics class (for Shecky :) ).  I took a fairly broad array of classes for my J.D., but the plurality of them were in Criminal Law.

Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: laura_be on September 26, 2011, 04:54:33 PM
This is such an interested thread, don't know why I never visited ir before.

I'm not sure how to traslate exactly to the USA system, but I think this is close: I started a college degree in Accounting, I was really good at it, and it was where the money was, but it wasn't really something that made me happy. So I dropped out in the 3rd semester and went to persue the one thing that I have always liked, art.

So now I'm finishing the 4th year of what is a BA in Visual Arts (is kind of general knowledge of a lot of stuff art related but with more emphasis in conceptual art and history) and at the same time starting to work on my disertation. Honestly, I'm starting to panic because it's art you know. Here at least, has always been an under-developed sector. But, it's what I like *shurggs*

Currently, my disertation tutor is trying to hijack (I think that's the word) me to his side of the force, which is specialization in Art theory and critism. I'm considering that, there's only, I don't know, maybe 4 art critics around here and it's really interesting. Plus, I think I might not the artistic type after all, more the one that talks about it type.

I studied some english in elementary school, did a super fast 5 months course when I was in highschool, but most of it I learned it on the internet and actually talking to people with the dictionary at hand. I know a little of Italian, I spent a month there studying it (ok, more sightseeing *wink*). But I really want to keep learning more of that when I have the time, and German too. I'm a grammar freak in my native language, which is Spanish.

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Post by: Shecky on September 26, 2011, 10:44:02 PM
I have a B.S. in Biology with a minor in Linguistics and a J.D.  I've run PCRs (for the biologists in the thread :) ) and Noam Chomsky guest-lectured for a day in my Intro to Linguistics class (for Shecky :) ).  I took a fairly broad array of classes for my J.D., but the plurality of them were in Criminal Law.

Oh, great, a lawyer. *ducks*  ;D

Chomsky... Nutjob. Freaking genius nutjob. There was a professor at South Carolina when I was starting my grad work, a gentleman named Simon Belasco. I never actually took one of his classes, but his reputation lurked around every corner and blocked all the doorways. French (well, Occitan was his true love) and linguistics were his bag. Friend of mine was chatting with him at some point. I hadn't yet had contact with Belasco, so he asked my friend about me, and apparently Belasco was a bit surprised by my, er, eclectic educational "direction" (more like "lack of direction", what with all the minors I had). That friend came to me after Belasco's next class and told me that Belasco had spent the first several minutes of that class talking about ME, saying I was a "new Noam Chomsky" simply because I hadn't limited myself to one specialization. For a second, I honestly didn't know whether I wanted to chase him down and shake his hand or punch him. :D

Nowadays, I'm coming to terms with the "nutjob" part of that.  :o
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Post by: Vairelome on September 27, 2011, 12:18:15 AM
Chomsky... Nutjob. Freaking genius nutjob.

Oh, I agree.  I could tell why the only classes he taught were at the graduate level, even though that was unusual on this faculty.  (Most of the biggest "names" on the faculty actually taught lower-division courses, not just undergraduate courses.)  His lecture was highly technical; if we hadn't already had a pretty solid introduction to the field, I'm sure most of the class would have been at sea.  If you want to understand his work, reading Steven Pinker is the way to go.  (I regret not being able to fit Pinker's Intro to Psychology into my schedule; he's a hell of a teacher.)
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Post by: Dina on September 27, 2011, 12:54:06 AM
*In a reverent voice* Shecky, I am still more impressed with you now  :o
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Post by: Shecky on September 27, 2011, 01:28:17 AM
*In a reverent voice* Shecky, I am still more impressed with you now  :o

Don't be. It came of being moderately bored and needing to fill in elective credits. :D Plus, it's not like I actually did anything with all of that behind me, unlike Chomsky. I was just curious, in need of elective credits and not wanting to take the usual Basket-Weaving 101 to fill in the gaps.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on September 27, 2011, 01:38:10 AM
I don't really know if I like your credit system (it's not a critic, just an honest comment, I don't know if I would have liked it. Probably yes, as I like so many different things)
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Post by: Shecky on September 27, 2011, 02:16:09 AM
I kind of like it, to be truthful. It means that you definitely have to go outside your own narrow field and see what else is out there in the world.
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Post by: Dina on September 27, 2011, 02:18:45 AM
Yes, I understand it. That is why I said I would probably like it.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: k9doc95 on September 29, 2011, 03:04:20 PM
Shecky- You are crazy smart.

WinterEmissary- I have hesitated to respond to your post regarding the euthanasia of your family cat because I didn't want to hijack the thread but I really do want to say something.

First, let me extend my deepest condolences to you and your family on the lost of your pet. Euthanasia is a heartrending process and the decision leading up to it is equally difficult.

As a veterinarian the possiblity of a euthansia-gone-bad is one of my great nightmares. I would like to tell you what actually happens. I am not doing this to justify the actions of the other doctor involved or to marginalize your pain, just to explain the process.

At first blush, euthanasia is a simple process involving the injection of an overdose of anesthetic. Usually the primary drug is pentobarb. Some veterinarians will sedate the animal prior to the injection. Some veterinarains will place an intravenous catheter in every euthanasia - others don't and rely on their ability to establish vascular access with a needle.

After 15 years of practice I put a catheter in every euthanasia. Animals that are near the end of their life where euthanasia is an appropriate decision often have very poor veins, perfusion or co-morbid disease that makes it more difficult to reliably access a vein. I administer an intravenous sedative immediately prior to the actual euthanasia. Soemtimes animals may twitch or make a noise when they are euthanized. The sedative eases their passage. It also makes them unaware of what I am doing so that, hopefully, all they hear is the voice of their owner. After the sedative, I administer an intravenous injection of euthanasia solution (pentobarb). Most animals will pass within 30 seconds. If the animal has profoundly compromised perfusion the process takes longer because it takes longer for the drug to reach the target organs.

If the euthanasia solution is accidently extravasated (goes outside of the vein) this can cause discomfort. If the pre-euthanasia sedative is a lower dose it may cause dysphoria (where the animal is disoriented and may become hyper-excitable). If vascular access can not be established, there are other sanctioned methods for euthanasia but I do not even consider them unless I have no other option.

Again, I am so sorry for your loss and the experience that you and your pet went through. I know it doesn't help but I truly believe that the majority of veterinarians are dedicated to minimizing suffering. Please don't write off my entire profession - most of us care deeply for our patients.

Teresa M. Rieser VMD, DACVECC
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shecky on September 29, 2011, 03:55:58 PM
Yup. Every vet I've ever met (with one glaring exception, which to me proved the rule) got into it for love of animals.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Berrylovely on October 07, 2011, 03:27:21 PM
Our vet is wonderful. He explains things every time we ask, and sometimes when we don't! We have been seeing him since I got my kitty, Puss, at age 11. I'm now 34. :) There is noone we trust more. They have helped us with strays, getting them spayed or neutered at reduced/no cost, or if need be helping them ease into the Sunny Afterlife. They have been there for EVERYONE of our pets deaths and they make donations to Purdue's Vet School in memory of every pet we have lost. There is noone I would rather go to. I will be very sad when he retires, as there is noone else to take over his practice.

k9-you sound just like our vet! :)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Paynesgrey on October 20, 2011, 02:04:51 PM
Oh, great, a lawyer. *ducks*  ;D

Chomsky... Nutjob. Freaking genius nutjob. There was a professor at South Carolina when I was starting my grad work, a gentleman named Simon Belasco. I never actually took one of his classes, but his reputation lurked around every corner and blocked all the doorways. French (well, Occitan was his true love) and linguistics were his bag. Friend of mine was chatting with him at some point. I hadn't yet had contact with Belasco, so he asked my friend about me, and apparently Belasco was a bit surprised by my, er, eclectic educational "direction" (more like "lack of direction", what with all the minors I had). That friend came to me after Belasco's next class and told me that Belasco had spent the first several minutes of that class talking about ME, saying I was a "new Noam Chomsky" simply because I hadn't limited myself to one specialization. For a second, I honestly didn't know whether I wanted to chase him down and shake his hand or punch him. :D

Nowadays, I'm coming to terms with the "nutjob" part of that.  :o

Aw, you shoulda known better than to give me material like this to work with, Shecky.  The Pretty Pretty Princess has about run it's course, and I was looking for some new tickles...
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on October 20, 2011, 07:56:53 PM
Well, update on my education. In 3 or 4 weeks I should be done with exams (and hopefully passed them all) and done with my BSc. Trying to decide to do further study, what I'm attracted to the most is a brand new course my University is bringing out -Masters of professional studies in food safety. I can't decide whether to do the degree or go straight into the work force. Already owe like ...alot , do I want to add more onto that and study another two years , what if I can't get a job from my degree? and that extra debt and time was for nothing :/  Bah why can't I have overbearing parents that decide everything for me?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: shades of grey on October 20, 2011, 07:59:55 PM
The question is do you want to study further?  Are you interested because you would genuinely enjoy it or because you are in the learning zone?
TBH, although I enjoyed my learning, I could have done better if I had stayed employed.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Sir Huron Stone on November 15, 2011, 03:35:20 AM
Does a doctorate in Self Ignition count?  ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on November 15, 2011, 03:37:57 AM
It's you - don't know. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: grandpax3 on November 30, 2011, 02:09:43 AM
I have a high school diploma and a little college a long time ago, but having been around for nearly sixty years can I get at least a Masters in Hanging In There?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: MrsAWiggins05 on December 12, 2011, 04:12:17 PM
Sure!! I have a minor in Hanging In There!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on December 12, 2011, 08:24:41 PM
Could call it an Age and Treachery degree.
IE: Age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: grandpax3 on December 17, 2011, 01:47:20 AM
I'll go with that one Snowleopard !
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Post by: hank the ancient on December 17, 2011, 01:57:32 AM
BA biology
BA environmental studies
Masters biology
certificate in tropical ecology and conservation
early alternative certification for teaching

still underemployed
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Blaze on December 17, 2011, 03:38:41 AM
*HUGS* to all you edumacated unemployed.  My poor husband, too! 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: PCL on December 24, 2011, 11:42:27 PM
I have a Masters in B.S.ery ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: OnlyElise on December 26, 2011, 03:35:20 AM
You know what's funny.... my degree is a Bachelors of Science in Marketing Management.

Which makes it a B.S. in Marketing!!!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shecky on December 26, 2011, 12:47:29 PM
B.S. in Marketing!!!

Which immediately qualifies you to work in the Redundancy Department of Redundancy.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Paladin Terry on December 28, 2011, 01:00:24 AM
I'm a newbie here with a high school diploma. nice to meet you all ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Howl on December 28, 2011, 05:57:11 PM
I'm a newbie here with a high school diploma. nice to meet you all ;D

Hello, nice to meet you and welcome to the insanity! ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Paladin Terry on December 30, 2011, 09:19:47 PM
thank you!! & i love the insanity...keeps me on my toes
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Aiki Fan Guy on January 29, 2012, 06:54:06 AM
M.S. in Oriental Medicine (Acupuncture and Traditional Chinese medicine)
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Post by: lt_murgen on February 03, 2012, 04:13:03 PM
Bachelor's of Science in Industrial Engineering
Master's of Science in Operations Management.

Married to a girl with a GED, who became a C.N.A. first, then a phlebotomist.

Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: habu987 on February 04, 2012, 11:08:18 PM
Bachelor's of Science in Industrial Engineering
Master's of Science in Operations Management.

Married to a girl with a GED, who became a C.N.A. first, then a phlebotomist.

Going a bit off track here, for the longest time, I thought phrenology and phlebotomy were the same thing.  I couldn't figure out why hospitals and other medical facilities were hiring people to measure the skulls of the patients...  :o
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Orladdin on February 08, 2012, 03:55:38 PM
I have a Thesis-Baccalaureate in Computer Science from a major University. 

I have specialized professionally in automotive networks and writing embedded software for ecu micro-controllers with a supplementary expertise in C# .NET. 
Personally I'm a hobby game-designer and have co-coded a rudimentary MMORPG that's in bleeding alpha.

Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: MetalFae on February 10, 2012, 04:22:39 PM
I'm a Registered Medical Assistant with American Medical Technologists - Associate Degreed. I worked in Pain Management - Non Operative Spine Care for 3 years and then moved on to Orthopaedic Spine Surgery and have been working in that specialty for a year and a half now. :) *waves*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Eleyctra on February 19, 2012, 04:13:07 AM
I completely missed this thread!  :o

I have a Bachelor of Science in Media Arts and Animation.
I have a career job not exactly pertaining to animation, but certainly in the creative field.
I am working to get into graphic novels, and/or animation storyboards.  8)
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Post by: wardenferry419 on February 20, 2012, 05:12:05 AM
I have a Bach. in English from NKU, famous for being the collge the Clooney dropped out.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: contraducktory on February 23, 2012, 04:24:12 PM
No degree.  just a bunch of letters and numbers after my name.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: shades of grey on February 23, 2012, 08:55:28 PM
Were they the ones they gave you when they took your photo in front of the height guide?
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Post by: Snowleopard on February 23, 2012, 10:28:19 PM
^
Play nice Shades. ::)
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Post by: Icecream on February 24, 2012, 01:19:26 AM
I start my postgrad study next week  :-\ eeek!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on February 24, 2012, 02:40:55 AM
Hey IC, what specific areas are you going to be studying?
And good luck by the way.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on February 24, 2012, 02:52:15 AM
I'm going the easy route into a Masters in food safety, so this year I'm doing a post grad diploma majoring in food sci. One of the papers is even an industrial internship
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on February 24, 2012, 02:53:50 AM
Wow, I'm impressed.
On the personal side.  How have you been doing?
How's the home drama?  Quieter I hope?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on February 24, 2012, 02:59:03 AM
errm yeah I suppose. I'm back home for the time being , sister is still driving me nuts, but it's not bothering me as much as I don't have any school work ATM.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on February 24, 2012, 03:00:48 AM
Ah.  How's the puppy/dog?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on February 24, 2012, 12:44:28 PM
Woah sorry for a long wait between replies , as soon as I got home I passed out and only just woke up...at 1:30am. . Mouse is great, I've been taking him for walks down to the beach several times a week and letting him off the lead , but he's going to cost alot more soon. my local council is upping the price of dog regos from $75 for a desexed dog to $120 >:( , and he just cost me a whole lot due to a flea allergy which means I have to be extra vigilant when it comes to flea treatments. But he pays it back in cuddles. but I'm just regretting it a little bit that I hav'nt gone into the work force and decided to go back to study due to that. Ok I should get back to sleep soon, I want to get up early to walk him .
How are you Snow? I hope your stress levels are down, sorry about your kitty.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: DragonEyes on February 24, 2012, 01:12:59 PM
I start my postgrad study next week  :-\ eeek!

Congrats and good luck! I just finished my masters, so I know how you are about to feel...
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on February 24, 2012, 08:07:40 PM
Sorry to have taken so long to get back to you IC.
I understand entirely.
Actually taking a dog for a walk is considered very good exercise.
I've known dogs with flea allergies - that sucks.
Hey given all your home stresses - having Mouse is very, very good for you.
An animal helps to lower stresses and blood pressure - so consider Mouse cheap medicine.
I'm hanging in and hanging on.  Still looking for work, still figuring out how to make some
money.  Sigh.  The stress levels are okay.  Thanks, I miss Lady but it was time.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: contraducktory on February 27, 2012, 03:06:03 PM
Were they the ones they gave you when they took your photo in front of the height guide?

haha, no those ones got removed, something about no witnesses willing to come forward.

All my letters/numbers are technical/networking in nature
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: dairwendan on April 02, 2012, 07:12:09 AM
High School Diploma.
Tried college, flunked out.
Worked in various retail jobs for four years, decided, "Damn it!  There has to be something better than this!"
Went back to college (different one this time) graduated with honors, got a BA in History and Theology, minored in Philosophy.
And could only find a job in . . . retail!
Totally NOT worth the college loan debt! *LOL*
So anyone without a degree, you are a lot smarter than I am!  ;)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: cenwolfgirl on April 02, 2012, 07:13:29 AM
cool i am smarter then you (as i am too yung to go to uni)
i am still in education i'll let you know how that turns out
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Orladdin on April 02, 2012, 07:00:00 PM
... Went back to college (different one this time) graduated with honors...
Way to go!
...got a BA in History and Theology, minored in Philosophy.
<Mechanics' drawl> I think I found yer problem right here. </sarcasm>  If you had gone with a technical discipline instead, you'd probably have zero trouble finding a job-- it's just the state of the world right now.  Philosophers, artists, etc aren't highly paid or sought after at the moment.

Regardless of your employment situation, do you feel like a more rounded / wiser person for having gone through college?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: dairwendan on April 03, 2012, 05:49:36 AM
Way to go!
Thank you, thank you, it is my proudest achievement to date!

<Mechanics' drawl> I think I found yer problem right here. </sarcasm>  If you had gone with a technical discipline instead, you'd probably have zero trouble finding a job-- it's just the state of the world right now.  Philosophers, artists, etc aren't highly paid or sought after at the moment.
You're quite right.  Unfortunately I have no technical skill.  I had to take pre-remedial math before I could even qualify for remedial math in college! *LOL*  My original plan was to get a doctorate and become part of the Academic world.  Not that there was a lot of call for that even in the late 90s when I was attending college.  My late father, bless him, intending to give me similar advice asked me why I didn't get a business degree instead, to which my answer was, "Because then I'd have to work in Business the rest of my life."

Regardless of your employment situation, do you feel like a more rounded / wiser person for having gone through college?
VERY much so!  I found the answers to a lot of questions, and of course found many more questions, and what is life without curiosity? 
I'd like to add, I have actually used my degree more during conversations on the internet than in any professional setting!  True story!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Madd on April 03, 2012, 07:56:11 PM
Were it not for the drastic increase in pay, I would say college isn't worth it.

I don't know if I'm just unlucky, but I hate dealing with this level of depression on a daily basis.  I'd rather be back on the farm, or the lumbermill.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: DragonEyes on April 03, 2012, 07:58:01 PM
I, on the other hand, absolutely loved college and have been going continuously since 2000, while working.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Madd on April 03, 2012, 07:59:12 PM
I, on the other hand, absolutely loved college and have been going continuously since 2000, while working.

I hate college, I like learning.  I think college would be better if I didn't have all the petty assignments to worry about, and if I didn't have to deal with so many people.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: DragonEyes on April 03, 2012, 08:03:19 PM
I understand what you mean. If you are just trying to check the block, I seriously recommend online courses. Fewer idiots, assignments more clearly laid out, you can get it done ahead of time if you like. That kind of thing.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Madd on April 03, 2012, 08:06:09 PM
I understand what you mean. If you are just trying to check the block, I seriously recommend online courses. Fewer idiots, assignments more clearly laid out, you can get it done ahead of time if you like. That kind of thing.

Sound advice, too bad I'm about a month away from graduating with my second degree.  :)  In the future I would love to take some creative writing courses, I think I'll do the online coursework for those.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shecky on April 03, 2012, 08:06:49 PM
I understand what you mean. If you are just trying to check the block, I seriously recommend online courses. Fewer idiots, assignments more clearly laid out, you can get it done ahead of time if you like. That kind of thing.

My wife got her business degree online, and I'm sorry to report that none of those advantages were present as a rule.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: DragonEyes on April 03, 2012, 08:13:52 PM
Interesting. I did my undergraduate all online. That was my experience. Where it was lacking was in actually teaching me anything.  But, it might have to do with the school and its online climate. Might be something to research if you go back for another degree.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Madd on April 03, 2012, 08:14:16 PM
My wife got her business degree online, and I'm sorry to report that none of those advantages were present as a rule.

 :(

Also, I remember when your post count was not much more than mine!  They grow up so fast these days.....
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: parthagenon on April 03, 2012, 08:36:41 PM
I hate college, I like learning.  I think college would be better if I didn't have all the petty assignments to worry about, and if I didn't have to deal with so many people.

But college is fun!  A torturous amount of work (hello, 3-hour problem sets in Physics, Math, and Chemistry due tomorrow...), but if you choose interesting classes and find fun people to hang out/work with, homework parties become tolerable and sometimes even enjoyable.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Warden John Marcone on April 03, 2012, 11:53:19 PM
Tried college, got sick of it and dropped out.  Couldn't find a job, tried going back to college.  Got sick of it again, dropped out again, found a job as a floor man at Quad Graphics.  Now I need to go back to college again before I can get off the floor.

HOWEVER! I'll be changing my major from Liberal Studies (which bored me in hindsight) to Editing, and as long as I maintain a 3.0 QG will pay my tuition and books.  So that happens when I get a full time promotion.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: dairwendan on April 04, 2012, 02:50:10 AM
It is possible to get out of college what you put into it, intellectually, spiritually, personally, but there is no guarantee that you will get out of it what you put into it financially, and that was my point. 

Also, PLEASE beware of online colleges.  Many are not accredited by the proper educational institutions and you come out of them with a degree that does not say for instance, that you have a BA in history, but that you took all of the online classes at University of Whatsit in order to get what the University of Whatsit calls a BA in history. So please, do your reasearch and don't take the online college's word that they are 'accredited'. 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: OnlyElise on April 04, 2012, 02:54:16 AM
Yes, what the previous poster said. I did my online schooling with Kaplan University, and it was actually more difficult than the brick-and-mortar school I attended right out of high school (which was a pretty prestigious school, too). You definitely get out of it what you put into it. I would recommend not doing an online school like University of Phoenix because of their group assignments. They make up half your grade, which means the bad students don't have to do any work at all because they know the good students in their group will carry them. A good way to tell if a school has a good reputation is by calling reputable brick and mortar schools and asking them about whether they'll accept someone with a Bachelors' from the online school into their Masters program.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Madd on April 04, 2012, 03:04:46 AM
A good way to tell if a school has a good reputation is by calling reputable brick and mortar schools and asking them about whether they'll accept someone with a Bachelors' from the online school into their Masters program.

Good point.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on April 04, 2012, 04:25:19 AM
But college is fun!  A torturous amount of work (hello, 3-hour problem sets in Physics, Math, and Chemistry due tomorrow...), but if you choose interesting classes and find fun people to hang out/work with, homework parties become tolerable and sometimes even enjoyable.
I just handed in a huge project (worth a lot!) with literally one minute to spare. I'm not feeling it. Why the hell am I doing post-grad?! I remembered how much I hate uni last year!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: parthagenon on April 04, 2012, 06:36:46 AM
I just handed in a huge project (worth a lot!) with literally one minute to spare. I'm not feeling it. Why the hell am I doing post-grad?! I remembered how much I hate uni last year!

Maybe it's because the professors are nicer to undergrads?  I dunno, even though we're always dying of work, I think most of my friends agree with the sentiment that college has been pretty awesome so far.  Although that might change next year, when we're no longer freshmen to be coddled.  :o
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Madd on April 04, 2012, 11:28:35 PM
Maybe it's because the professors are nicer to undergrads?  I dunno, even though we're always dying of work, I think most of my friends agree with the sentiment that college has been pretty awesome so far.  Although that might change next year, when we're no longer freshmen to be coddled.  :o

I think I'm a bit biased truth be told.  The lack of any meaningful financial support meant I had to work at least 30 hours a week during the semester just to survive.  I kind of missed out on the college experience.

Then I chose Biochemistry/Molecular Biology, the most credit intensive degree at my university by a long shot, which further killed my "college experience".

Ah well, I can't really complain to much these days as everything has literally gone according to plan.  Its bizarre really.
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Post by: Daghain on April 05, 2012, 03:05:41 AM
I have a B.A. in English and a B.S. in Accounting. (I got my former employer to pay for the accounting degree - never let anyone tell you a liberal arts degree is a waste of time - apparently it qualifies you for a job in accounting. But my work history is the most random thing on the planet.)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: AxGrinder on May 28, 2012, 03:11:55 AM
I have a BS in Biology.  I was 9 credits short of a BA in Religious Studies as well, but just got too stressed out the final semester (my scholarship only lasted 4 years) so I dropped it back to a minor.

I've worked in academia, private sector, and for the last 6 years, government.  As we like to joke:  "I'm with the government.  I'm here to help."
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Chiroptera on May 28, 2012, 03:55:39 AM
Another bio major!  ;D 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Jimmy on June 04, 2012, 11:49:56 PM
I quit high school, wasn't learning anything there, and joined the military to get out of my podunk nowhere backwater town which was only on the aussie map because it famously killed 15 back packers in a fire.

Went on to become a combat systems electronics engineer, an x-ray engineer and now I'm a bio-medical engineer fixing and installing hospital equipment around Australia.

Still no degrees, although I've had plenty of troops serving under me who had, and I've developed a firm belief that a university education is no substitute for real work experience. Some of us can pull it off, but not everyone can.

I guess its a variation of nurture vs nature.
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Post by: earthshoes on June 05, 2012, 01:48:59 AM
I'm a forty-six year old senior at Missouri State, working on my BA in English with a minor in Psychology. I think I want to teach community college when I grow up.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: horsehearted on July 02, 2012, 02:55:35 PM
Hi all! Guess who just graduated with a B.S. in Animal Science from UC Davis!!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shecky on July 02, 2012, 03:32:33 PM
Hi all! Guess who just graduated with a B.S. in Animal Science from UC Davis!!

Congrats!
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Post by: Dina on July 02, 2012, 06:29:20 PM
Congratulations, dear Horsey!!!!!  :D :D :D
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Post by: Snowleopard on July 03, 2012, 01:57:27 AM
Congrats Horsey.  Way to go.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Howl on July 03, 2012, 06:33:58 AM
Hi all! Guess who just graduated with a B.S. in Animal Science from UC Davis!!

Congrats HH! :D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: horsehearted on July 03, 2012, 05:15:56 PM
Thanks guys! I'm actually pretty darned happy with myself. Now, who else has been learning recently?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on July 03, 2012, 07:54:06 PM
I am graduation with an AS next quarter. Then on to my AA.

My grades arn't too shabby either.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 04, 2012, 12:03:10 AM
Hi all! Guess who just graduated with a B.S. in Animal Science from UC Davis!!

I dunno.  You?

Gratz, Horsey. *glomp*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: FireWorks on July 07, 2012, 06:18:25 PM
Hi all! Guess who just graduated with a B.S. in Animal Science from UC Davis!!
Congrats Horsy! Proud, you have made me! ;D
Thanks guys! I'm actually pretty darned happy with myself. Now, who else has been learning recently?
That would be me. :D Both Bachelors and Masters in Electrical Engineering from Indian Institute of Technology Madras.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: shades of grey on July 07, 2012, 06:19:36 PM
Congrats all round!  :)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 12, 2012, 10:57:20 PM
I should really go back to school.  It sucks being broke.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on July 12, 2012, 11:29:01 PM
What is this sentence called,...An oxymoron :) when you are at studying, you typically are broke.

Anyway, more education does't necessarily mean more money on the end of it.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on July 13, 2012, 12:16:14 AM
Exactly IC! WJM, I wouldn't go back to study for economic reasons.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Warden John Marcone on July 15, 2012, 03:18:33 PM
You misunderstand me.  I'm not in school right now because I can't pay for it.  If I go back to school, it will be to finish getting my degree, which I don't have, not for "Economic purposes."  One does not teach because it pays well, and I want to teach some day soon.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: cenwolfgirl on July 15, 2012, 03:32:00 PM
teaching sounds like that could be intresting
i am still in english virsion of high school


(and i still can not spell to save my life ::) )
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on July 15, 2012, 05:46:26 PM
Oh, all right, WJM *avoids TT about the right of an education*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on July 24, 2012, 06:13:06 AM
Like school. On my last quarter. For my AS
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Post by: JinElusion on July 24, 2012, 06:14:17 AM
AS? Whats that?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on July 24, 2012, 06:14:56 AM
Associate of Science in Entrepreneurship.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Gilitine_Memitim on August 01, 2012, 07:01:49 AM
I hated high school, but graduated a year early thanks to an acceleration program. I've been taking a year off to scrap some money together to pay for college (not that thats worked out to well). I'm currently enrolled in Ivy tech for Librarian Technical Assistant but don't really know what I want to do. I generally learn the subject to a degree I understand it and then get bored, so what happens happens
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 06, 2012, 02:37:21 AM
i didnt mind high school, graduated earlier this year. the only thing with my school was that the classes were honors, which i was mostly in, with some APs, and then the normal classes. it seemed like the normal classes were remedial compared to honors, so junior year when i took honors english instead of college, there were inportant things i never even went over.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Gilitine_Memitim on August 06, 2012, 02:39:02 AM
School was boring, I'd read up on the materials before the teacher ever go to them. I wasn't so much learning as going through the motions.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 06, 2012, 02:43:30 AM
oh. my brother was more like that than me. he got in trouble because of it.
i just either knew much of the material, or didnt pay attention unless i liked the subject, like my russian history class. the teacher was awesome, and she knew so much that even if you read ahead you learned different stuff.
i entertained my self. like when the teacher stepped out, i hit my friend with a snowball, she walked in to a room full of my laughter, and other peoples shocked silence
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Gilitine_Memitim on August 06, 2012, 02:45:41 AM
Suprisingly the only trouble I've had was for not turning in assignments.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 06, 2012, 02:50:47 AM
i was late a few times when my sister drove me. i got a detention after 4 tardys. somehow she didnt.
and i 8th grade one of my teachers said i was missing 3 assignments, gave me a detention, then when i showed up she found them on her desk. i asked if i could leave and she said no, i was still in detention.
grade went from a 68 to a 84 from those three papers.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Gilitine_Memitim on August 06, 2012, 02:52:16 AM
I had formed the perfect system to get C's in high school, purely out of boredom. Of course a grading curve threw it off a lot, but otherwise it was perfect.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Doroga's Cousin on August 06, 2012, 02:54:05 AM
I had formed the perfect system to get C's in high school, purely out of boredom. Of course a grading curve threw it off a lot, but otherwise it was perfect.
Just to mess with the teachers?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 06, 2012, 02:54:40 AM
ha. people in my school got mad at me because i honestly never tried. i had a 93.7 GPA and i was 21st in my class. when its that competitive, and you dont try people can be cranky
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Gilitine_Memitim on August 06, 2012, 02:57:34 AM
I was the opposite I've put effort into underachieving. I'm the best at it, my last principle even said so.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 06, 2012, 03:02:19 AM
but you graduated a year early? are you in america? just because if you are i think a first year of college may have been free. my brother did that. got a GED, then went to school. then stopped school, but oh well
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Gilitine_Memitim on August 06, 2012, 03:05:30 AM
I've looked into it, I graduated before that was put into effect and it doesn't count for me.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 06, 2012, 03:08:29 AM
oh. ok
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Gilitine_Memitim on August 06, 2012, 03:10:02 AM
Yeah I know, It sucks but there's nothing to do about it. And I'm not exactly having much luck on the saving up money part either, so *shrug*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 06, 2012, 03:11:22 AM
yeah money is tight now days.
and school is expensive.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Warden John Marcone on August 06, 2012, 04:28:51 AM
Suprisingly the only trouble I've had was for not turning in assignments.

My god, from everything s/he's said I could swear I was talking to myself.  Hi there, is your name Joshua?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Gilitine_Memitim on August 06, 2012, 04:30:47 AM
why yes yes it is. How do you do Joshua.
Actually it's andrew, and it's nice to meet someone like myself.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 06, 2012, 04:32:07 AM
i gots a cousin named andrew
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on August 06, 2012, 06:58:21 AM
*raises hand*

I am Charlotte.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 06, 2012, 07:02:30 AM
do you have a web?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on August 06, 2012, 07:06:07 AM
do you have a web?

Now isn't that original.  ;)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Gilitine_Memitim on August 06, 2012, 07:06:45 AM
originality is a ghost town
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: JinElusion on August 06, 2012, 07:09:13 AM
originality is a ghost town

Oops, yeah... my bad...
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on August 07, 2012, 02:05:43 AM
*raises hand*

I am Charlotte.

oooh my sis's name is charlotte, and CWG's name is charlotte. lotsa charlottes.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 07, 2012, 05:25:19 AM
* stands*
i am Spartacus!!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on August 07, 2012, 06:07:14 AM
oooh my sis's name is charlotte, and CWG's name is charlotte. lotsa charlottes.

I have met only three others. And none of then were even close to my age. I was the only Charlotte in my entire high school and now college.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 07, 2012, 06:07:51 AM
wow, smallish school?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: JinElusion on August 07, 2012, 06:17:18 AM
*Thinks*

Yep, not sure if I've ever actually ever met a Charlotte
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 07, 2012, 06:18:02 AM
was in home room with one for 4 years, she was the only i have meet though
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Gilitine_Memitim on August 07, 2012, 06:19:24 AM
I'm sure I have at some point I just can't remember one
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 07, 2012, 06:20:02 AM
thats the spirit!! ;)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on August 07, 2012, 06:42:21 AM
I have met only three others. And none of then were even close to my age. I was the only Charlotte in my entire high school and now college.

Perhaps it is a name that is becoming old, like edna, or ethel, or agnus (after all my sis was named after two of our great-grandmothers), or maybe it just depends where you live, like in NZ there's hardly anyone here with my name, but I went to california, and I found a novelty keyring with my name on it!

Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on August 07, 2012, 06:48:58 AM
Try Frances - how many of those have you run across?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 07, 2012, 06:49:56 AM
non with the first name, like 5 with the middle name, including my dad and one of my best friends
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on August 07, 2012, 06:55:09 AM
Try Frances - how many of those have you run across?
my great-uncle's name! and I've got a cousin call francois
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on August 07, 2012, 06:58:33 AM
Yeah, males are more likely than females.
Though oddly enough I've known at least two other Franceses both of whom were in
two different groups that I was in.  Odd to find the name, odder to be in the same group
with someone.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 07, 2012, 07:05:52 AM
how about ralphs?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on August 07, 2012, 07:07:02 AM
Lemme see, I worked with a Ralph and I've known a Ralph through another friend.
So two at least I've known.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 07, 2012, 07:08:30 AM
i still think it is funny that my biggest temptation and only reason i kinda wanted a face book is to message all the other ralph carrolls "there can be only one"
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on August 07, 2012, 07:10:55 AM
Good luck.
I'm afraid I see a death cage match in your future.
(For the one and only RC. ::) ::))
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 07, 2012, 07:13:27 AM
well, as a 6'2.5ish 260lb-ish, young man i think i stand a chance, unless any are trained
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on August 07, 2012, 07:15:33 AM
Odds are at least one is trained but...holy cow...
what's with all the yeti's we've got on the Forum?
We got you, GK, and Sir Crash, and SHS is no pygmy either.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 07, 2012, 07:17:36 AM
well theres not too much training to prevent ill affects from a swift kick to the balls ;)
and i dont know, i didnt know there were that many bigguns' round these parts
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on August 07, 2012, 07:19:51 AM
Yup, GK in particular is no shrimp.

I once had a discussion with my cousin about a good swift kick to the family jewels.
He said that wasn't fighting fair - I looked at him and said if I'm fighting for my life 'everything'
is fair in my book.  He didn't have anything to say after that.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 07, 2012, 07:21:31 AM
well duh, especially in a cage of people trying to decapitate me.
the only time i would fight fair was when i was in high school.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: mdodd on August 07, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
well theres not too much training to prevent ill affects from a swift kick to the balls ;)
and i dont know, i didnt know there were that many bigguns' round these parts
Oh no! bear trap.

I assume you mean big personality.  :o

Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on August 07, 2012, 06:13:26 PM
i actually meant a large person......
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on August 14, 2012, 06:08:39 AM
 :D
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Post by: JinElusion on August 14, 2012, 06:10:18 AM
*sneaky sneaky*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on August 14, 2012, 06:11:27 AM
*looks round....*

I has a stalker.....
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: JinElusion on August 14, 2012, 06:13:33 AM
*tackles*

Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on August 14, 2012, 06:15:56 AM
*evades*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: JinElusion on August 14, 2012, 06:17:33 AM
*Sets a snuggletrap*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on August 14, 2012, 06:19:19 AM
Falls into trap...*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Revenge of Newton on August 19, 2012, 05:25:33 AM
*jumps over trap*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: JinElusion on November 01, 2012, 01:40:34 AM
*sets more traps*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: JessE on November 01, 2012, 01:41:36 AM
I have a feeling that this thread got derailed quite successfully
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: JinElusion on November 01, 2012, 01:43:52 AM
*nodnod*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on November 01, 2012, 01:51:51 AM
*is pleased*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: tuttman1234 on November 01, 2012, 06:29:57 AM
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb265/Specopsscott/officespaceThreadjack.jpg)
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Post by: JinElusion on November 01, 2012, 06:33:18 AM
Amazing
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on November 01, 2012, 10:18:07 AM
How is it off-topic? The thread is about education and we're being taught how to derail a thread successfully
 
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Post by: Snowleopard on November 01, 2012, 05:22:47 PM
We already know how to do that!!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Paynesgrey on November 02, 2012, 12:58:11 AM
Let's not take the thread too far off the OP's intent.  Plenty of room for Weird, well, in Weird, after all.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on April 08, 2013, 08:15:41 AM
I GRADUATED. That is all.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on April 08, 2013, 08:19:24 AM
I GRADUATED. That is all.

Congratulations!!!! remind me what you graduated in though, I know it's on here somewhere, but I can't be bothered looking for it. Something to do with animals is'nt it?

I'm graduating with my post-grad diploma next month. Not actually going to the ceremony, but I get a pretty piece of paper with my name and degree on it.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: DoTArchon on April 08, 2013, 08:19:48 AM
*Applaudes*

CONGRATULATIONS  :D ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on April 08, 2013, 08:20:38 AM
*is proud of all the smarts going around.*
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on April 08, 2013, 08:22:23 AM
I found it!

 
Associate of Science in Entrepreneurship.

why did I think it was something to do with animal sciences or something?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on April 08, 2013, 08:23:25 AM
I dunno.... Lolz!

I also have my AA. so two for one deal in two years  8)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on April 08, 2013, 08:40:24 AM
I dunno.... Lolz!

I also have my AA. so two for one deal in two years  8)

ok I have to ask what an AA is. Not the AA I'm thinking of right?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on April 08, 2013, 02:58:10 PM
Congratulations, Wat!  :) (((Wat)))
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: JinElusion on April 08, 2013, 03:51:12 PM
ok I have to ask what an AA is. Not the AA I'm thinking of right?

Associate of Art, I believe.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on April 08, 2013, 04:36:12 PM
Associate of Art, I believe.

Correct, my good man.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Berrylovely on April 08, 2013, 05:52:00 PM
Congrats graduates!!

Icecream-what is next for you? will you ever be able to move from home? How be the doggy??
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on April 08, 2013, 07:02:08 PM
Hey, congratulations Wat.
Way to go.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on April 08, 2013, 08:05:58 PM
Congrats graduates!!

Icecream-what is next for you? will you ever be able to move from home? How be the doggy??
I'm working "casually" ATM , which has been more than full-time because the previous full time lab assistant left, so I got all her hours, but the new person starts today so  they are going to be reduced very soon. In the mean time I'm looking for a job in food science, something like a lab tech role, but it's been a bit difficult.I've been applying for jobs all over the country, about 90% don't even reply.

Mousey is good although he is itchy, so that's been vet bills, very strict flea treatments,pregnizone, baths every week with oatmel shampoos and I've clipped most of his fur off too, but finally after a week of avoiding me he slept in my bed with me last night. He's finally forgiven me for the haircut, but it's better than having him scrating all the tim and getting matted fur.

How's bubs and your work going?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on April 08, 2013, 08:10:28 PM
ICECREAM - ((((((IC))))))
We've missed you.
I will keep my fingers and toes crossed that you
find a great job.
Sorry to hear about the pup.
Is it possible that he has a food allergy or an allergy to
something in his environment?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on April 09, 2013, 06:46:13 AM
ICECREAM - ((((((IC))))))
We've missed you.
I will keep my fingers and toes crossed that you
find a great job.
Sorry to hear about the pup.
Is it possible that he has a food allergy or an allergy to
something in his environment?

Yeah, it's an allergy to something, thing is we just don't know what. Usually the most common thing is fleas, then food, grasses, plants, pollens or something else we don't know. Best thing we can do is stay on top of the flea treatment, give him the low doses of pregnizone and limit the range of food he eats. Eventually we will get around to taking down the vines in the back yard (pollen) but they re all over the trees, which are like 3-4 stories high.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on May 09, 2013, 04:00:21 AM
Belated congrats wat. Although, i feel a little compelled to make fun of an art degree, (in a playful way, not serious) just because i am in engineering. we be opposites.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: JinElusion on May 09, 2013, 04:03:40 AM
Ah, it wouldn't be in "Art", it just means her degree is more liberal arts based rather than mathematics and science based. So AA vs AS or BA vs BS. Still different from what you're most likely to graduate with (B.S.), but thought I'd clarify anyway  :)

And welcome back, Ral!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on May 09, 2013, 04:15:11 AM
Thank you kindly. I know, but it is a bit of a past time to mock liberal arts majors.... at least the ones who you are close enough to that they know it is just a joke.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: JinElusion on May 09, 2013, 04:16:59 AM
Apologies. Your sarcasm didn't translate as you intended. I blame the internet *nodnod*  :P
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on May 09, 2013, 04:19:29 AM
I know right. I swear we need sarcasm font.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Enchantedwater on June 11, 2013, 07:54:43 AM
I know right. I swear we need sarcasm font.

genius
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: TooManyVoices on June 11, 2013, 10:08:34 AM
Saw the thread and decided to add my two cents: high school grad, about to get my CCAF  Associates (need English Comp and Speech). I wanna get a real degree but no idea in what.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Carnifex:Pacifex on June 12, 2013, 02:30:38 AM
Working on Studying Biology as much as I reasonably can, hoping to minor in Entomology. I loves me some arthropods.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Chiroptera on June 12, 2013, 03:51:02 AM
Working on Studying Biology as much as I reasonably can, hoping to minor in Entomology. I loves me some arthropods.

*High five*  What's your favorite arthropod?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Carnifex:Pacifex on June 12, 2013, 05:59:24 AM
Centipedes all the way ^_^
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: spywolf on June 12, 2013, 06:14:59 AM
Good morning weird
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on June 12, 2013, 06:17:34 AM
Eh...someone is still asleep?  :P
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: spywolf on June 12, 2013, 06:20:08 AM
Hush been up 20 minutes still on auto drive
Now where has weird gone?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on June 12, 2013, 06:23:10 AM
Weird is where always have been. You just posted in other place.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: spywolf on June 12, 2013, 06:24:46 AM
I can see that Dina
Sorry I am still asleep
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Carnifex:Pacifex on June 12, 2013, 06:32:12 AM
Dina, might I add that Your profile pic is ..its just.... it makes you win all kindsa of pizza trophies.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on June 12, 2013, 06:35:35 AM
Well, I only have it because we had a H. Giger weekend and I liked it so much that I decided to keep it all the week. But my usual avatar is way cuter, the silly Lilah of Control-Alt-Del
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: DoTArchon on June 12, 2013, 06:42:31 AM
I have finally, at the age of 30, started a fire under my ass and began studying part-time. I've finished my first module and a small side course that's necessary for my next module, everything looking good so far, have yet to drop under 85%. I'm on my way to becoming one of the worlds most boring people: An Accountant!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Carnifex:Pacifex on June 12, 2013, 06:48:07 AM
A Giger weekend? was that the whole community here or...? Kinda sad i missed out.


An accountant you say? Godspeed to you sir...
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on June 12, 2013, 02:54:12 PM
Here in the forums we sometimes do "theme weekends" but it's mostly the Weird regulars who do that. This time not so many of us changed-
DoT, I have to admit I dislike the account related things, but I respect people who can do that. All the best for you, DoT!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Quantus on June 12, 2013, 05:59:36 PM
Bachelor of Mechanical Engineering, with a minor in Philosophy.  Now I have my full Professional Engineer credential (think the Bar Exam or your medical license, only for engineers) and am a practicing engineer in the field of Industrial Instrumentation and Control Systems. 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Carnifex:Pacifex on June 12, 2013, 08:51:18 PM
Here in the forums we sometimes do "theme weekends" but it's mostly the Weird regulars who do that. This time not so many of us changed-
DoT, I have to admit I dislike the account related things, but I respect people who can do that. All the best for you, DoT!

I also, sporadically come here, and i have to Admit that a "Weird" is a new term to me, what exactly does it mean?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on June 12, 2013, 08:55:13 PM
Hiya CP
Weird is a thread where most anything, (Save TT topics) can be talked about.
And goofyness may ensue and often does.
No particular structure to it.
It isn't dedicated to one of JBs series or what JB is up to.
Nor is it the Writing section.
(TT = Touchy Topics.  Certain topics we stay clear of - Politics, religion except in JBs stories, sex as the site
is PG-13, other stuff that might bring on a firestorm.)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on June 12, 2013, 08:57:58 PM
Yes, I remember having talked with you before, I thought it has been in Weird.
Well, "Weird" is a thread in the "Bar" section, which is renewed every week. It's where many of us spend the time chatting about all sort sort of things. You are welcome there!
And, in case you want to have more info, check this thread: http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,36876.0.html (http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,36876.0.html)

PS; Snowleopard was faster than me  :D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Carnifex:Pacifex on June 12, 2013, 08:58:46 PM
Hiya CP
Weird is a thread where most anything, (Save TT topics) can be talked about.
And goofyness may ensue and often does.
No particular structure to it.
It isn't dedicated to one of JBs series or what JB is up to.
Nor is it the Writing section.
(TT = Touchy Topics.  Certain topics we stay clear of - Politics, religion except in JBs stories, sex as the site
is PG-13, other stuff that might bring on a firestorm.)

Gotcha, many thanks ^_^
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on June 12, 2013, 09:00:43 PM
You're welcome.
And welcome to the Forum. :D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Quantus on June 12, 2013, 09:02:00 PM
Hiya CP
(TT = Touchy Topics.  Certain topics we stay clear of - Politics, religion except in JBs stories, sex as the site
is PG-13, other stuff that might bring on a firestorm.)
Whether Han shot first, Whether Names count in Scrabble, whether or not you are supposed to pronounce the T in "Often"  :P

(not really, though all the Do's and Donts can be found in the Policies sub-board)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Carnifex:Pacifex on June 12, 2013, 09:38:24 PM
Whether Han shot first, Whether Names count in Scrabble, whether or not you are supposed to pronounce the T in "Often"  :P

(not really, though all the Do's and Donts can be found in the Policies sub-board)

Pretty much what keeps this place from becoming an argument riddled forum place like most other places? yeah, its also probably why i like this community so much as well.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Carnifex:Pacifex on June 12, 2013, 09:39:47 PM
You're welcome.
And welcome to the Forum. :D
Many thanks,
im not exactly bran new, technically, but I just have times in life when I get so busy I end up forgetting My own account here ^_^
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Chiroptera on June 13, 2013, 12:47:44 AM
You're probably the first centipede fan I've run across.  They're weird but cool little critters.  My background is wildlife biology but I have a soft spot for the creepy crawlies.  (I love spiders).

Whether Han shot first, Whether Names count in Scrabble, whether or not you are supposed to pronounce the T in "Often"  :P

(not really, though all the Do's and Donts can be found in the Policies sub-board)

I read "Do's and Donuts" for some reason.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Carnifex:Pacifex on June 13, 2013, 01:46:31 AM
Aye, I just find a certain, unappreciated beauty to them that I really enjoy. them, and scorpions as well
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on June 13, 2013, 08:23:56 AM
Yuck!!  :o :o

To each their own.  :o :o
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Quantus on June 13, 2013, 12:26:49 PM
You're probably the first centipede fan I've run across.  They're weird but cool little critters.  My background is wildlife biology but I have a soft spot for the creepy crawlies.  (I love spiders).

Like these little demonic beauties?

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: spywolf on June 13, 2013, 12:45:53 PM
Like these little demonic beauties?

(click to show/hide)
that thing looks awesome
but I would not want to meet one in the dark when I don't expect to...
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Carnifex:Pacifex on June 13, 2013, 06:24:07 PM
haha, exactly. As much as i love centipede's I probably wouldnt get one for a pet anytime soon. I have a pet scorpion, and he is just a Emperor. They look big and mean but they are fairly docile. Havnt been hurt once but sometimes he will let me know when he's really not in the mood to be handled.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: TooManyVoices on June 13, 2013, 09:34:06 PM
A critter I saw a few news stories on that also looked interesting was a mantis shrimp. Gotta research to see if the thing is even real or not but sounds really awesome.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on June 13, 2013, 09:36:59 PM
It is real  :)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Quantus on June 13, 2013, 09:38:56 PM
This Guy?

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: TooManyVoices on June 13, 2013, 09:46:02 PM
Ya I think that is one of them. Read how they are not really shrimp and about the club or hammer type and how fast the claw moves and how they are being researched to improve body armor. Apperantly one of those lil guys is/was creating havoc in 1,300 gal tank in San Fran; killing snails by the handfuls and is too sneaky/fast for the keepers to catch it. Also read how they can break normal glass easily and how they will never be in the petting tank ever. Wether or not you are religious in any way, anyone can appritiate the irony of no matter how smart man thinks he is we are still learning things from nature and the simplest of life forms.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on June 13, 2013, 09:47:30 PM
That is not simple at all.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: TooManyVoices on June 13, 2013, 09:51:09 PM
Ok smallest then  :P I am off to work for 2 - 3 hrs then probably log on here and get my skyrim on a lil. Sleep tight; dont let the vampires bite.  ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Carnifex:Pacifex on June 14, 2013, 04:40:27 AM
Ok smallest then  :P I am off to work for 2 - 3 hrs then probably log on here and get my skyrim on a lil. Sleep tight; dont let the vampires bite.  ;D

If you like mantis shrimp, then you will love Bobbit WOrms. now Those are freaky.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on June 25, 2013, 03:58:46 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacculina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacculina)
now those are creepy.
a parasite that hijacks crabs and takes them over, and will make males behave as if they are females.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Quantus on June 25, 2013, 12:11:53 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacculina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacculina)
now those are creepy.
a parasite that hijacks crabs and takes them over, and will make males behave as if they are females.
Damn, Nature.  Thats a harsh one.  And would make a hell of a cheesy SyFy movie...
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on June 25, 2013, 08:34:38 PM
Oh please, don't even go there Quantus.
Saw one the other night where they seemed to be scrapping the bottom
of the barrel for ideas.
How about......POND SCUM!!
I swear that's what it seemed that the monster was. ??? ???
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Carnifex:Pacifex on June 25, 2013, 08:52:04 PM
alas.... probably why I dont watch any TV anymore....

Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Chiroptera on June 25, 2013, 10:29:10 PM
Oh please, don't even go there Quantus.
Saw one the other night where they seemed to be scrapping the bottom
of the barrel for ideas.
How about......POND SCUM!!
I swear that's what it seemed that the monster was. ??? ???

Duckweed vs. Spirogyra
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on June 25, 2013, 11:37:45 PM
ROFL!!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on June 26, 2013, 01:28:49 AM
Indeed.
Hmmm, just gave me a fun idea for a thread.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Sully on September 01, 2013, 09:04:23 PM
Thank you kindly. I know, but it is a bit of a past time to mock liberal arts majors.... at least the ones who you are close enough to that they know it is just a joke.

I'm 3 semesters from a music degree, and I can never stop myself from mocking liberal arts majors.  Nor can my sister, with a double bachelors in studio art and art history.*

Especially now that I'm a chemistry major.

*"So what do you do with that?" she gets asked.
"Be the cute artsy girl at a coffee shop, and segue that into marrying a good looking air force boy" she responds.

I have finally, at the age of 30, started a fire under my ass and began studying part-time. I've finished my first module and a small side course that's necessary for my next module, everything looking good so far, have yet to drop under 85%. I'm on my way to becoming one of the worlds most boring people: An Accountant!

Hey, it's all good.  I'm going back at 28.  I know a very fine violinist who went back at 39 to finish his bachelors, now has a DMA and is a professor.  Another guy who decided to collect music degrees as his retirement activity.  Who cares?  Just do something fulfilling while you're in school.

If my parents had any influence, I'd be an accounting major as well.

I know right. I swear we need sarcasm font.

Another forum I read uses green text for sarcasm.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on September 15, 2013, 02:56:18 AM
On the edumacation front i am back at school not, or have been for the past 3-4 weeks. This year will be another one with an even heavier workload. so i may not be on here as much as i would like.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Sir Huron Stone on September 15, 2013, 02:58:10 AM
Just found out that all the training I'm going to do is like 66 college credits, and it's all electronics and stuff, so I could get a degree in computers. I've just gotta do my english and the training, and I'll be pretty much done.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on September 15, 2013, 03:01:01 AM
nice. And the right computer degree will be in high demand. I managed to get out of takin g an english course in college. I took AP english, and the school sent me a letter saying i got those credits, and asking which english class i wanted to be placed in. I didnt answer so i wasnt put into one.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on September 28, 2013, 06:24:23 AM
I have a degree in fisheries biology and work with the Alaska seafood industry.  If I'm ever able to retire I hope to study at an Islamic seminary and become an Hujjatul-Islam (lowest level of Shi'a Muslim cleric).  First choice for this would be the seminary in Qom, Iran, but will probably do preliminary studies in the States.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Doppelgänger on September 30, 2013, 11:37:04 PM
Really there are only a couple of jos in the military that don't give you college credits
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Rasins on November 11, 2013, 07:10:00 PM
Let's see ... Bachelor's in the Science of Management
Master's Certification (NOT Degree) in Project Managment
Member of the Project Management Institute
Certified Project Manager

But my real education ... Husband.  NEVER stop learning.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Toottootfan199 on November 12, 2013, 10:00:05 PM
The husband part is so true. lol
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Chiana on November 13, 2013, 03:15:47 PM
But my real education ... Husband.  NEVER stop learning.

The fact that you recognize this is half the battle.   ;D
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Rasins on November 13, 2013, 05:57:37 PM
The fact that you recognize this is half the battle.   ;D

Yes, Ma'am.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Quantus on November 20, 2013, 04:13:44 PM
Yes, Ma'am.
And that right there is the other half ;)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Chiana on November 21, 2013, 03:12:46 PM
He's pretty smart, isn't he?   :)

I'm not sure if I ever put my edumacational enlearnenment here or not.  I have a B.S. in education with a focus on Health and Family Life.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Quantus on November 27, 2013, 05:34:31 PM
Anyone else out there hate using the term "a B.S. degree"?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Icecream on November 27, 2013, 05:48:46 PM
Anyone else out there hate using the term "a B.S. degree"?

Nope. Because I have a BSc here. That's an American term for a bachelor of science isn't it?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Chiana on November 27, 2013, 06:43:41 PM
Yes, that's right Icecream.  I do feel funny saying B.S., and usually will say it out completely when I tell someone. 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Quantus on December 04, 2013, 04:06:58 PM
Yes, that's right Icecream.  I do feel funny saying B.S., and usually will say it out completely when I tell someone.
Same.  Ill say "I have a Degree" or "an Undergraduate degree in [blank]" if I need to get more particular.  Being an engineering degree, the Bachelor of Science vs Bachelor of the Arts distinction isnt really needed, everyone assumes the Of Science.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on January 20, 2014, 10:03:43 AM
Funny, maybe that's a generational thing--never felt weird about saying "I have a BS in biology".  Was pretty standard when I was an undergrad...
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on January 22, 2014, 03:36:58 AM
im the kinda guy who will be joking about having a bs degree, and a degree in bs. although only second year of school here.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: stealthq on April 07, 2014, 08:40:10 PM
Well, the common terminology is:

BS = bulls***
MS = more s***
PhD = piled high and deep

I've got one or more of each, and just about everyone I work with is a PhD as well, so I can say that in my very personal experience, I've found this to be oh, so, true. I'm fairly drowning in the stuff on a daily basis.

To keep to topic, mine are:
BS - Biochemistry & Genetics (one degree, dual major)
MS - Computer Science (done after the Micro PhD)
PhD - Microbiology (actual research was molecular genetics & biochemistry - just happened to be working with microbes)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shinihime on April 27, 2014, 05:23:31 AM
I am in high school.  Probably one of the youngest users on the forum.  And the least educated.  :'(
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Quantus on April 28, 2014, 02:43:37 PM
I am in high school.  Probably one of the youngest users on the forum.  And the least educated.  :'(
Bah, "educated" is just a matter of outlook.   Keep learning new stuff until you die, and you will be better off than most no matter how many years you've been at it.   
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shinihime on April 28, 2014, 11:15:05 PM
Bah, "educated" is just a matter of outlook.   Keep learning new stuff until you die, and you will be better off than most no matter how many years you've been at it.
So, when I die, does that mean that I didn't learn something that would have kept me from getting killed?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Quantus on April 29, 2014, 02:50:23 PM
So, when I die, does that mean that I didn't learn something that would have kept me from getting killed?
Not nessesarily, but it will mean you managed to learn a lot of stuff that was useful in other ways :) 
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Rasins on April 29, 2014, 02:54:53 PM
I agree wholeheartely with Q. 

To add to it, don't limit yourself to one field either.  Study new languages.  Study Religion.  Study Math that you didn't get earlier in life.  Study people.

Take rest breaks, but use those rest breaks to figure out what area of study you want to get into next.

And study does not necessarily mean school.  Explore on your own.

Get out into the wild and study botany and biology and weather.

Have fun and revel in learning.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on April 29, 2014, 08:15:01 PM
^
What Rasins said plus - as they say - Knowledge is power.
You never know when a little odd bit of learning just might help you out.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Chiana on April 29, 2014, 08:22:12 PM
If you go to college, take a lot of different electives that interest you in the first year or two.  You may find your major is not what you want to do and you can make the switch earlier.  Remember, you are not married to your major in the first part.
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Post by: Snowleopard on April 29, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
^
What she said.
When I went to college I tried to get most of my requirements out
of the way early - then I could enjoy classes that I wanted to take and did.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Chiana on April 29, 2014, 08:36:10 PM
My freshman year I took archaeology, Canadian Studies, Art History and modern dance to explore options, along with my intro classes for my major.  Loved each one but found that I really don't like history, so archaeology was out and the rest were more just interests that I could continue to explore as electives and on my own.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Snowleopard on April 29, 2014, 08:37:47 PM
I always wanted to get into Paleontology but my College didn't have any
classes in it
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Quantus on April 29, 2014, 09:25:26 PM
Fwiw, there was not enough room in my curriculum for any elective courses, thanks to some questionable practices by Clemson (calling 5 year programs 4-year so as to not intimidate parents).  What electives I did have room for I got because I had AP credits that got me out of a few of the General requirements.  Some of the more intensive majors just dont really give you much freedom in terms of actual classtime to invest.  Ive known since I was knee high that Engineering was the Path for me, so transferring majors wasnt much of a concern, but thats far from normal Im sure.  regardless, even with that sort of situation you will never have more free time than College, until well after Retirement.  So in addition to electives, dont get so focused on the classes that you cant take advantage of the extra-curricular things around.  There were several clubs and activities (including a Skydiving Club!) that I could have been a part of but convinced myself I didnt have time for.  Had plenty of time for anime and DnD apparently :P

Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shinihime on April 30, 2014, 03:12:15 AM
Not nessesarily, but it will mean you managed to learn a lot of stuff that was useful in other ways :)
So... does that mean that the things i learned that didn't keep me alive had nothing to do with survival, or does it mean that I ought to study self-defense, eating dirt, and camouflage?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Quantus on April 30, 2014, 01:10:36 PM
So... does that mean that the things i learned that didn't keep me alive had nothing to do with survival, or does it mean that I ought to study self-defense, eating dirt, and camouflage?
Whatever floats your boat.  Just keep learnin'   ;)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shinihime on April 30, 2014, 09:58:53 PM
Whatever floats your boat.  Just keep learnin'   ;)
Yay.  Alright, will do~!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Doroga's Cousin on May 01, 2014, 09:38:12 PM
I am in high school.  Probably one of the youngest users on the forum.  And the least educated.  :'(
Hey man, I'm a Senior this year. I was a freshman when I joined. You'll fit in regardless. ;)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shinihime on May 01, 2014, 10:57:21 PM
Hey man, I'm a Senior this year. I was a freshman when I joined. You'll fit in regardless. ;)
OK.  Now I don my beret.  Never face the internet without a good hat.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Sully on May 05, 2014, 09:28:30 PM
Fwiw, there was not enough room in my curriculum for any elective courses, thanks to some questionable practices by Clemson (calling 5 year programs 4-year so as to not intimidate parents).  What electives I did have room for I got because I had AP credits that got me out of a few of the General requirements.  Some of the more intensive majors just dont really give you much freedom in terms of actual classtime to invest.  Ive known since I was knee high that Engineering was the Path for me, so transferring majors wasnt much of a concern, but thats far from normal Im sure.  regardless, even with that sort of situation you will never have more free time than College, until well after Retirement.  So in addition to electives, dont get so focused on the classes that you cant take advantage of the extra-curricular things around.  There were several clubs and activities (including a Skydiving Club!) that I could have been a part of but convinced myself I didnt have time for.  Had plenty of time for anime and DnD apparently :P

Even non-STEM majors have this problem.  Most schools, music is a 4 year track, period.  No way around it.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: The-Lord-Marcone on May 06, 2014, 10:21:10 PM
2 Very different and very diverse career paths over here - Battlefield Medic British Army, and now have a teacher's diploma in Acting.  Oh, and I have my gold swimming certificates.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: etothepii on July 14, 2014, 10:55:42 PM
Bachelor's in Mathematics Education.

Yep, I'ma math teacher  :o
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: frankcesca on July 16, 2014, 12:47:19 PM
Double-major bachelor's in anthropology and linguistics, and a master's in linguistics.

But I won't be going around correcting grammar; I studied minority and endangered languages. Sociolinguistics!
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Big Bad John on September 10, 2014, 08:57:01 PM
I've got a college diploma in Computer Tech, a couple of IT certifications, and I'm working on my Bachelor of Technology in Information Security right now. After that I want to work on my CISSP certification.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Wizard H on September 17, 2014, 08:32:26 PM
I'm currently working on my Associate's in Graphic Design, Multimedia.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: moon on October 05, 2014, 10:15:20 PM
started my first year of universaty
my classes i have to take are
cell biology
skills 1
skills 2
human biology and phiseology
forensic science
and molicules of life
then i had to pick one elected modual/class so i did the edl ecredited ict part 1

also i have joined the karate club

sooo yeah uni is awesome and i am learning lots
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Sully on October 05, 2014, 11:01:20 PM
What are the skills classes?
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: moon on October 06, 2014, 02:35:13 PM
lab skills
scientiic wrriting
team work
itc
presenting
intavew
comunication
cv and cover letter
maths
sskills ect

you know employebilaty and scientific skills
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shinihime on October 24, 2014, 02:57:55 AM
Totally unrelated (I know, right), but since my Soph year started I've been taking two languages, and it's very fun.  Except on Wednesdays, when I've got Japanese then Spanish.  On normal days, I have English between the two.  Block days drive me nuts sometimes.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on October 24, 2014, 03:03:56 AM
Yep, I remember when I had French and English in the same days. Luckily I had half an hour inbetweem, which I used for read something in Spanish, so not to get blocked. At least, Japanese and Spanish had a similar pronunciation, so that is something.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: raljamcar on March 09, 2015, 06:50:21 AM
Fwiw, there was not enough room in my curriculum for any elective courses, thanks to some questionable practices by Clemson (calling 5 year programs 4-year so as to not intimidate parents).  What electives I did have room for I got because I had AP credits that got me out of a few of the General requirements.  Some of the more intensive majors just dont really give you much freedom in terms of actual classtime to invest.  Ive known since I was knee high that Engineering was the Path for me, so transferring majors wasnt much of a concern, but thats far from normal Im sure.  regardless, even with that sort of situation you will never have more free time than College, until well after Retirement.  So in addition to electives, dont get so focused on the classes that you cant take advantage of the extra-curricular things around.  There were several clubs and activities (including a Skydiving Club!) that I could have been a part of but convinced myself I didnt have time for.  Had plenty of time for anime and DnD apparently :P

Yeah, i was originally in a 4 year engi program, for aeronautical engineering. Then i picked up Mechanical as well, with an extra year of classes. I figured there are plenty of 5 year engineering paths anyway, and hey, i am getting 2 degrees from it. There have been time i list off what a generic week in the life of me is like during the school year to friends back home and gotten stared at like i was crazy, and its funny because i cant imagine it any other way.
If i hadnt done engineering i may have gone history, but didnt do that becasue i didnt think it was good career path wise, or more likely epidemiology. particularly finding the roots of diseases and such... becasue that woulda been history with a layer of bio and some chem on top, lol.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shinihime on March 10, 2015, 05:53:04 AM
Yep, I remember when I had French and English in the same days. Luckily I had half an hour inbetweem, which I used for read something in Spanish, so not to get blocked. At least, Japanese and Spanish had a similar pronunciation, so that is something.
Yes, that makes it easier, though sometimes you get words like "manga".  In Spanish, it means "sleeve", and in Japanese, it refers to the comics.

On a side note, I just got into AVID~!  I'll be enrolled in that class in my junior year~.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Dina on March 10, 2015, 06:08:23 AM
Yes, that makes it easier, though sometimes you get words like "manga".  In Spanish, it means "sleeve", and in Japanese, it refers to the comics.

On a side note, I just got into AVID~!  I'll be enrolled in that class in my junior year~.
Oh yes, there are a number of faux amis (I don't know Japanese, but I've been told about that). There is also the word "no" which it's a negation in English, Spanish and many other languages while it means something like "of" in Japanese.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Shinihime on March 13, 2015, 06:59:57 AM
Oh yes, there are a number of faux amis (I don't know Japanese, but I've been told about that). There is also the word "no" which it's a negation in English, Spanish and many other languages while it means something like "of" in Japanese.
Yes, "no" in Japanese is used as a possessive.  For example, "Watashi no hon" would mean "book of mine" or "my book".
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: rocinante on March 17, 2015, 05:23:41 AM
Hey! Interesting topic!
I am from Brazil. I don't know exactly how my degrees translate to american universities, but I have a law degree and a social scienses degree. I also have a masters in political sciense from the University of São Paulo, and I am currently getting my PhD in political sciense here.
Interesting to see the other posts from people mostly from the humanities. :)
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: ITheHellAmFan on May 06, 2015, 05:39:19 PM
I have a BA majoring in Computer Science and Philosophy and minors in Math and Physics.  I work in a tech support call center and really like it, even though my days often feel like this.
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Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: wardenferry419 on July 16, 2016, 08:23:02 AM
Don 't know if I posted my edumacation here. Bach. in English. Though, the only valuable I got from college was my wife, Traci. They can have that piece of paper back.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Mongward on July 16, 2016, 03:19:11 PM
I'm an English studies graduate. Both my BA and MA were in literature, one of them in humour translation (I'm Polish). So far I've mostly worked as a translator and proofreader, not of literature, though.
Title: Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
Post by: Lawgiver on July 21, 2016, 07:52:18 PM
Formal education = High School diploma.  But, I'm about to turn 59 and have tons of practical, real world experience in a number of things.

Did one of those "life credit" things at a local college about a decade ago.  Thankfully it was one of those where you test first and then they tell you what it will cost to get all those credits applied to a degree.  I scored in a variety of areas including 4 Bach, 2 Mast and a PhD in subjects I can't even remember any more.  It would have cost me over $50k to get diplomas so I let it drop.

"I don't need no stinkin' diploma" to prove I'm educated.

:)