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DF Spoilers / Re: It didn't make sense to me (Harry/Starborn/created)
« on: June 19, 2021, 08:33:31 AM »
She was not crazy when Harry saw her in his soul gaze with Thomas.
She was not incoherent, that's not the same thing thing as not being crazy.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Marcone could probably beat Harry in a duel.
« on: June 19, 2021, 08:24:19 AM »
Marcone didn't like the odds in Battle Ground and declined and it cost him the Eye and his castle.
I mean if you're going to try and take Harry straight-up, something that'll let you survive the death curse is pretty much mandatory, the likeliest outcome of trying for it there was a mutual kill.
I both agree, and disagree.  With book examples (and head cannon) Harry's talent in magic falls into three main categories:

1.  Combat magic:  Least technical, relies on his formidable raw power.  Hits really really hard but technical wizards can see it coming, defend, and counter. 

2.  Non combat magic:  Harry is a wizard, capable of all forms of magic.  If he sets his mind to it, and has time, he can pull off really impressive magic.  It requires time, and effort, so not effective in a pinch.

3.  Crafting magical items (blasting rod, rings, bracelet ect).  Jim has said that Harry is Senior Council level at constructing this stuff.  So he has a rare talent for it, think Lucio and how nobody can craft enchanted swords like her.  So this is a legit magical talent, and Harry is expert level. 

So yeah Harry is limited in some ways, but an expert in others.  Give him time to prepare, and he can pull of some incredible stuff.  In combat there are wizards who can beat him, but very few could actually take Harry's best shot.  They need to avoid direct combat with him because he hits so hard that they aren't likely to survive his first pyro blast (if he wants blood). 
Harry is genuinely the worst Wizard in the entire series, it's not really a surprise that he loses to people like Carlos or Namshiel, who have actually heard the phrase "fight smarter not harder" before.

Like, when Harry takes on that team of Fomor Sorcerers in BG he talks about how they're basically loser scrubs that can make big booms but have no skill and real Wizard's laugh at them and I'm just like "Harry, how's about you put the stones down and just enjoy the view from that glass house of yours, m'kay"
Of two minds about this, on one hand yeah he is kind of bad at magic but it's getting a bit exaggerated just how incompetent he is at times. But on the other hand he definitely isn't senior council level considering Ebenezar is running around with a staff blast that's at least 1000x as strong and better coat equivalent and he's not the senior council's enchanting specialist, he's top of the line for his generation when it comes to making things but still can't hold a candle to the older wizards in skill.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Young Wizards
« on: June 19, 2021, 03:18:05 AM »
Not personally. But it was a hard lesson in 'what Winter turns people into' that he would have misinterpreted even worse than it was.

I don't think he was lucid enough to overhear Mab's explanation. As far as he's concerned, Molly was probably getting off on luring him into a hotel room and beating him within an inch of his life.
And that was Molly after what, a week of being in Winter's clutches? Harry's been in their hands for years at this point.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Marcone could probably beat Harry in a duel.
« on: June 18, 2021, 02:26:05 PM »
I assume you mean Namshiel and his previous host? Fair enough...although past performance isn't always a reliable indicator of future outcomes. Namshiel still has to teach Marcone etc. But that being said, he is the Fallen who has displayed the most magic through his host. Which does make you wonder why not the others...it isn't like angels (fallen or no) have an issue with magic. Must be to do with who they are and how they work.

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Totally agree, in universe. By rights Marcone has already displayed enough to show he is advanced of Harry and should beat him in a duel, not including Namshiel's tricks in hi previous host.

However. The way Harry talks about Marcone with disdain and being a magic novice etc belies the above. Only one of two possible conclusions can be true. Either Harry is absurdly overconfident/in denial about Marcon's power and skill/talent etc. Which Harry normally isn't. Or Jim doesn't want Marcone to be better...but hasn't shown why that should be true, yet Harry will somehow "prove" Marcone is the lesser despite Marcone clearly can pull off more complex magic.
He's probably right about Marcone being not up to par in a number of ways, because Marcone is supposed to be keeping pace with Harry rather than being better both in terms of brawling and organisation. Marcone could still win a 1v1 if he let Namshiel take the wheel for a few minutes but fat chance of that.

As for why the other denarians don't really make with the magic too much, presumably because if every denarian was a super-wizard on top of their other abilities it'd be just absolutely impossible to balance them as an antagonist.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Marcone could probably beat Harry in a duel.
« on: June 18, 2021, 11:04:54 AM »
Jim said that the type of wizard to beat Harry is Carlos.  Carlos is a water mage, and uses delicate magic that is difficult to do.  His type of magic could basically counter Harry's.

Well Marcone did some things that makes me question Harry's ability to beat him.  First, Marcone didn't use any Foci when casting magic.  He did it without any tools, which is the sign of a skilled magical user.  Second, Marcone used a type of teleportation, a veil, and was able to change concrete at the molecular level...  This kind of magic is most likely extremely delicate, and difficult to do.  We only saw some of his defensive magic, not his offensive abilities.  Marcone, I think, is a lot like Carlos in the sense of being able to neutralize Dresden's particular style of magic (I think he'd take Carlos at this point too)...  Throw in the fact that Fallen are way tougher than mortals and can take damage that would kill a wizard...  Marcone was unfazed by his broken neck for example, healing instantly...  Combine all of these and Dresden has a seriously dangerous enemy in Marcone.

Also a WAG...  Dresden (I think) sensed temporal energies at Arctis Tor when it was attacked with Hellfire....  I suspect it was future Marcone.  Mab made a mistake taking Leah there when she was Nemfected (Jim said she thought it was the right thing, which sounds like it wasn't)..  I think Marcone traveled back to try and get Leah out of there.
Well yeah, the last two times he went up against Harry he casually oneshot him before being taken down by a third party sucker punch.

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DF Spoilers / Re: "It is not yet your hour."
« on: June 16, 2021, 12:59:09 AM »
I don't know that we'll ever see it. It'll probably happen mostly off-screen between the end of one book and the end of the next.
With all the buildup it's gotten that'd be a bit disappointing.

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No, the Sword shattered because Murphy misused it by first judging and then trying to execute Nic with it.  Nic cannot shatter a Holy Sword, if he could he would have done so a long time ago.
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Her hips and shoulders twisted, to deliver the lethal slash.

The light of the blade died away as abruptly as that of an unplugged lamp. The thrum of power that resonated through the very air vanished.

Nicodemus rolled, moving like a snake, anticipating her perfectly and flowing away from the Sword with a sinuous motion of spine and shoulder. Karrin was thrown slightly off-balance by the lack of resistance, and his hands swept up and seized her wrists.

The pair of them struggled for a second, and then Fidelacchius swept up high, over Karrin’s head. Her expression whitened in horror as she saw the Sword, now gleaming with nothing more than ordinary light.

Then, guided by Nicodemus’s hands, the ancient Sword came smashing down onto the concrete of the sidewalk, the flat of the blade striking the frozen stone.

It shattered with a rising shriek of protesting metal, shards flickering in the streetlights. Pieces of the blade went spinning in every direction, sparkling reflected light through the darkness. Karrin stared at it with unbelieving eyes.
Like with Harry the sword was left depowered after misuse and Nicodemus took the opportunity to shatter it since it was back to being a lump of metal.

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DF Spoilers / Re: "It is not yet your hour."
« on: June 15, 2021, 02:17:18 PM »
I'd be surprised if there's only two sides in the inevitable White Council civil war (which book is that going to dominate? It doesn't really seem to fit any of the next few book pitches).

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DF Spoilers / Re: It didn't make sense to me (Harry/Starborn/created)
« on: June 15, 2021, 01:39:43 PM »
That would make an interesting twist, also since Justin's version of Bob, was Evil Bob, he'd have free access to Kemmler's knowledge.  It wasn't until Harry got a hold of him that Bob had a personality change, locked away the knowledge, until Harry forced him to dredge it up in Dead Beat, so Justin would have had access.  So when you look at it in that light, yeah, Harry killed him, but he came back from the dead as Cowl, it is possible.  However I don't buy that Elaine is Kumori.
Especially because Mouse would have tried to warn Harry because he got a chance to get up close and smell both of them.

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The sword didn't spontaneously explode when Murphy misused it, it dropped from her hands and Nicodemus shattered it on the sidewalk.

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As they say, "woulda, shoulda, coulda..."  In the end Cowl didn't have the chops so he didn't succeed..  Kind of like what Hades said about the Artifacts, it is set up so that the only one who succeed in getting them are the ones best able to wield them... Maybe Dark Hallow works the same way?  If he succeeded Cowl would have been as strong, however in his arrogance he miscalculated, so it is a moot point.
Well he did have the chops in the end, he just went and tried to keep Harry alive yet again for some reason and that mercy cost him.

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DF Spoilers / Re: "It is not yet your hour."
« on: June 13, 2021, 12:04:31 AM »
See, I figure Cristo is just an idiot, and PT/BG reinforced that idea to me. Idk he just seems suck up and too into posturing. He's just in the 'game' of politics. I've always thought Langtry was the other traitor. For various reasons, the look he gave Peabody when Harry outted him being the most prominent. That shark look, idk. It reminded me more of him looking at fellow predator whose been injured during a feeding frenzy. He knows Peabody's been had and doesn't want him to mess up and expose him too. He's ready to take him down rather than being bit too.
I've also always had this idea the Merlin, being a titled position and not a name, might have a mantle attached to it, and that mantle might be corrupted already.
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PT/BG also did nothing to lessen my opinion. Most important battle in years and the Merlin is nowhere to be seen? What really could have been going on that half the senior council was absent? Especially if everyone really wanted the eye.
Or to put it charitably to Cristos, his first impulse is to go for the peaceful option over the violent one.

If the Turn Coat plan had been successful, it would have seen LaFortier dead, Luccio executed, Langtry embarrassed, and Morgan discredited, Harry implicated for his relationship with Luccio (which would be conveniently revealed), Cristos the rising star, and Peabody still in place to manipulate things.

Then, Cristos could accept the peace summit from Arianna, look like he's pushing for peace to save wizard lives, and when things fall apart with Listens sick and the other Seniors missing, he could take control just like he did. If the curse had succeeded, then Harry and Eb would be dead, Harry could be blamed for the illness that swept through Edinburgh after his visit, Listens might be dead, the missing Seniors would have been painted as cowards that hid in the Council's time of need, and Cristos would be the leader of the Council in one way or the other.

It's a quick rise to power for Cristos, who could completely control the Council with Peabody's ink.

Instead, things fall apart, he isn't the undisputed champion of the Council, and he has to change tactics. He has to play nice with the other Seniors, and remain involved in things. He's shown himself to be brave in Changes, so now he's got to keep up appearances. I have no doubt Eb is suspicious of him, so he's sticking close, and Cristos had no choice but to show up for the talks for numerous reasons. And once he's there, he's got to fight for real to keep himself alive and keep up appearances.

Maybe he's just a pawn, witting or otherwise. Or maybe he's manipulated things to put himself in power over all wizards in order to change the nature of the Council itself from the top down, and bring about that corruption he mentioned in Dead Beat first-hand.
And here I thought you were on the Simon Cowl train.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry and NAMES
« on: June 09, 2021, 06:50:14 AM »
Someone made a WAG the other day that Harry was ascending into the ranks of the Fae Courts accidentally because he created the Mantle of the Za Lord - ruler of the little folk and that's actually how he becomes immortal. Also after his last stunt of calling all the Little Folk in Chicago I expect Toot Toot will be almost toddler size by the time we see him next.
I mean Toot is already 3 feet tall, he'll be somewhere between kid and teenager next time he appears.

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Also if being pummeled by Ethniu was all part of the plan he wouldn't be still mad six months after it.

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Didn't read the whole thread so maybe this has been said, but Eb at least also took a blast from the Eye. He had to draw upon the mantle attached to the blackstaff to redirect it iirc.
No he took part of a blast from Gungnir and redirected it.

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