he took up Thorned?  I ask because Lasciel really didn't seem to buff him up that much. 

One of her opening offers was to make him the single best human water mage on the planet, don't confuse Harry turning down her offers for her having nothing to offer.

Same for her next host... 

You mean the host pulling out displays of power and precision that Harry said would be impressive even by senior council standards? That host?

Marcone on the other hand who never showed any magical talent was out doing crazy magic we've never seen Harry do.

If Thorned could make Marcone that good, I have to imagine that Harry, a real wizard with a lot of horsepower would be an absolute nightmare.  Harry assumed the previous host was around one to two hundred years more advanced, but Marcone was doing advanced stuff with not to long of training.  I think that Harry would grow in months what would take him decades to learn otherwise.  After say 5 years I just can't help but think he'd be extremely powerful, and talented, doing magic that he hadn't even imagined.

What do you think?

Yes Thorned and Harry would be a nightmare combo (he's also Jim's second pick for a coin to stick Harry with after Lasciel).

I find it highly unlikely that a nuclear response would be used against the fomor even if their hidden cities were found.

Flooding the deep places of the ocean with Radioactive fallout is a fools game.

Admittedly it's a fools game that is probably going to happen in canon based on the prophecy with Corb.

I was mostly referring to the invading Formor army when speaking of the helicopter attack but I'll stand by it while pointing out the exceptions.

Ethniu, Vadderung, Harry, Eb, Corb, Cristos, Marcone, Ivy and Ramirez can shield.( Ferro isn't there, neither is Martha Liberty)

Mab, Molly, Titania and the Erlking are gonna go down temporarily, there's just too much steel flying about.

Everybody else from either army is gonna be really, really dead.

So we go from, two armies with 15K or so total fighting to a couple of handfuls of the elite. And that's what'll happen in non ambush scenario of supernatural vs military. Even if the magical forces can lead off with hexes, enough soldiers with rifles will eventually overwhelm them Horrific casualty exchange rate, yes, but an aroused and motivated humanity wins.

That sort of logic is why any hypothetical war with humanity is going to revolve around sneak attacks rather than straight brawling. All the fancy toys in the world don't matter if the bases are withering on the vine because of infrastructure collapse as one example.

In the real world we'd track him and end him with a Hellfire missile.  This isn't the real world and killing someone powerful  who doesn't want to be killed isn't all that easy in the first place. Eventually people notice.

That difficulty in tracking didn't stop Eb from getting close enough to supposedly attempt it three times.

It means a bunch of people got a memo that there's an apocalypse coming.

Not to mention, that yes while Marcone has a lot to learn - he has Namshiel. Namshiel doesn't have a lot to learn as he already literally knows all there is to know about magic (that an angel can know). He has intellectus. That's huge! We have seen Lash speed up Harry's brain so he can react faster than a normal being, think of what Namshiel could do. Even if Harry is better and more prepared, these are significant advantages. Marcone will get a lot more out of Namshiel than whoever the poor sap was who last was his ride. The fact that Macone goes by Marcone, and not Thorned Namshiel, should tell you a bit. He's on the order of Nicodemus but with magic. He might actually be a worse threat.

I do agree it won't be one-sided. Harry is formidable. Just look at his track record. But Marcone is no pushover (especially now), Harry will have to use every trick he has learned to beat him.

Pretty sure they lost intellectus when they fell (or at least when they got stuck in coins) much like how they lost their creative capacity, Anduriel's spying ability and Namshiel's research would both look pretty pointless if they instantly had the ability to know whatever they want to know.

And yeah when they do fight, I want it to be an even slugfest that some of Harry's friends don't walk away from because running Illinois means that Marcone should have an awful lot of men with guns on call.

Yeah, that's one of the reasons I'm on the Elaine bandwagon.

Mouse would have to be practically sleeping on the job to not try and warn Harry about that in WK considering he knows what Kumori smells like.

Maybe but Jim made it sound like she did what she did with purpose..  Said if she had killed him, the White Court would have replaced him while she basically sandbagged them for over 30 years...  Before it happened they were growing in power (much like now that Lara has taken over), but after her curse, they stagnated.  He focused on defense instead of expansion..

They weren't just stagnating, Raith was getting paranoid and wiping out potential rivals like Madrigal's dad over those 30 years, I'd wager a lot of younger members of the court got promotions in those few decades between her death curse and Blood Rites.