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Great another starborn theory, this time with vampires
The_Sibelis:
So, the meta experience on this is vampire courts equivalent of seven sins. I fathom each court was brought in by their originator as a causality of choice in one of the 7(it's been theorized which would be which in the past here, can't remember all of them) mainly born from Jim picking an arbitrary number like 7 specifically for the courts but then only fleshing out the 3-4 major ones he had actual plans for.
So, sorta like demons they technically have a place in reality, though they have real bodies they are not actually welcome here. Bad housemates, Dresden evicted some for us lol.
g33k:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on January 27, 2024, 01:51:33 AM --- ...However, this bit about vampires being native to the Nevernever has never been mentioned again. It really doesn’t make sense anyway. The Red Court were once humans who got half-turned until they killed someone and went full Rampire. Maybe whatever created the Red King was native to the Nevernever, but since that time all the members of the Red Court were humans that had been turned.
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Cite, please? I don't recall this, at all -- that the Red Court was ever composed of half-turned.
The Red King and all the LOON's were full-Ramp, and AFAIK have been so for a long time -- long enough ago that they were well-established as rulers in Mesoamerica when Cortez arrived.
I recall WoJ that they got so powerful by somehow using their venom to addict entities previously worshipped as gods by mesoamericans, and drain that power to use for themselves.
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on January 27, 2024, 01:51:33 AM --- ... If a member of the Red Court could infect a non-human, we haven’t seen one or been told it was possible to do.
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I don't recall this, either.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on January 27, 2024, 04:36:35 AM --- Though it might explain why Lea was able to put to sleep Susan's vampire side, though only for a little bit.. Or I seem to remember her doing it and it gave Harry hope which she swiftly dashed.. My memory of this is vague though.
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Harry got home to find Lea having put Susan and Martin to sleep, by way of sleeping their "Hunger spirits" (if I recall the phrase correctly).
Harry asked how she did it, and Lea indicated it was very rare & precious information, and offered to bargain for it... which immediately made Harry suspect he couldn't afford Lea's price.
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on January 28, 2024, 10:01:56 PM ---Harry got home to find Lea having put Susan and Martin to sleep, by way of sleeping their "Hunger spirits" (if I recall the phrase correctly).
Harry asked how she did it, and Lea indicated it was very rare & precious information, and offered to bargain for it... which immediately made Harry suspect he couldn't afford Lea's price.
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That's more or less how I remember it, but the way I remember it was that it wasn't about Lea's price in a bargain, but that at best it was just a temporary thing, and not a cure.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on January 29, 2024, 02:35:19 PM --- ... the way I remember it was that it wasn't about Lea's price in a bargain, but that at best it was just a temporary thing, and not a cure.
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From memory, Harry didn't advance his questioning (as to Lea's method) far enough to discern this, I think.
My memory, of course, could be faulty.
I believe Bob had asserted that there was no known way to do it (hence, being Harry's assistant as he researched, rather then tutor as he practiced).
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