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Just as surprising, Mab can't marry.

Lady can't boink, Queen can't marry. Mother can't have kids?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Barbara Books Q&A
« on: September 30, 2020, 09:52:30 PM »
Yeah, you don't have a lot of experience with that kind of literalist, I think. My brother makes a point of it.

There's massive amounts of folklore that sums up as "it's not easy."

Also, the idea that there's an entity that would be friendly to Kemmler but anti Council and totally willing to be helpful- is highly speculative on your part. The helpful ones- and the ones that will agree to such bargains- aren't the ones locked up.

EDIT: Kemmler would do such work himself, the only way to ensure it was done as he would have it done. If he lacked power, he'd go get more power.

Second edit: So as not to go back and forth on this, define:

Destroy
White Council
Freedom
Etc.

See, that's the problem. "Destroy the white council" "Copy- YOU! RENAME YOUR COUNCIL THE FUSCIA COUNCIL!"
Or "Well, you never said *when*"
Or extinction level events
Or disbanding the council but leaving its members alone
Or including Kemmler in the Council
Or equating it to their headquarters

There's near-infinite wiggle room in even the most straightforward request because of definition flexibility.

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DF Spoilers / Various Battle Grounds reactions (spoilers)
« on: September 30, 2020, 09:50:12 PM »
Various thoughts and reactions to Battle Grounds

1)   Here is Harry’s missing snark. Harry did not sound like Harry in Peace Talks.
2)   Chronicles of Prydain!
3)   This is where Butcher is strong
4)   Is the Za-Lord- and Harry- becoming an independent Erlking or Kringle character? Or is Toot ascending to that role? Harry certainly outed himself on this one. The degree of his influence over the Little Folk was not known except to the Faery Queens, I think. Apparently, he can call to all of them and have them put down their ADHD long enough to listen. Response obviously is dependent on importance of the request.
5)   WAG: The ouster from the White Council will be followed with an offer of reinstatement contingent on handing over the Eye.
6)   Bob is an enemy of Mab and not just paranoid? That’s interesting. Bob serves Harry.
7)   Faeries are “back” to “stealing” children? Sounds like a telephone reporting of Winter’s tribute
8)   Justine had access to Goodman, Lara’s inner circle, Thomas, and who else as Lara’s secretary? Any of them is potentially Nemfected, depending on how it spreads. Will Papa Raith come back into play?
9)   Jim’s recent signing answer about Kemmler having been the Warden, and a significant part of the White Council’s time being spent trying to keep him from Demonreach, raises some interesting questions
a.   Did the Sidhe assist, and that is what kept him from simply opening a Way?
b.   Is that part of the Chekhov’s gun of Harry’s medallion? He can’t be kept from anywhere
c.   I’ve long thought that the combination of the Darkhallow and the summoning circle on Demonreach was a Chekhov’s gun itself- Kemmler being the inventor and a former Warden comes close to confirming it
d.   Who was the in-between Warden?
10)   Ramirez warned Harry that McCoy was under standing orders to execute him if he backslid. Fun question: Is Wizard McCoy under those orders, or is the Blackstaff under those orders? If the latter, Ebenezer can flip Langtey the bird simply by handing off the Blackstaff to Harry. The only control anyone has over someone like the Blackstaff is his consent to being controlled.
11)   Listens to Wind and Ebenezer were in surgery when the council voted to oust Harry. Rashid was probably engaged at the Outer Gates. Those three and Martha Liberty were Harry’s “block.”
12)   Harry will need to reconcile with the svartalves. Potential future plot point.
13)   Harry is competing with Marcone for the title of Lord of Chicago.
14)   WAG question: If reincarnation is a thing in the Dresdenverse, are they actually Merlin and Arthur?
15)   Valkyries pick Einherjar. Which Gard flagged Murphy and Hendricks? By Sigrun’s mourning, I’m guessing Freydis?
16)   Did Harry out himself as Warden? Or is the message that he slew Ethniu?
17)   Interesting that Titania was summoned but not the Mothers
18)   Mab hints at Harry’s future immortality
19)   We finally found out where Molly had made doppelgangers before
20)   Will Harry be able to open a Way from the castle straight to Demonreach based on his own affinity and the magical parallels?
21)   Can Einherjar actually die, or are the “revenants” like wizards in that they will-eventually-heal?
22)   That series of threats Mab issued to Lara regarding feeding on Harry in Peace Talks- need to review how that applies to a wedding.
23)   The stars and stones make me think of the standing stones at places like Stonehenge- linked to Merlin
24)   Harry going to go back to school with River Shoulders?
25)   Namshiel trolled Ethniu. Ethniu is Celtic, which means Scottish/Welsh/Irish/Cornish/Gallic/Gaelic/Breton. When he spoke with her, he deliberately used an upper-crust English accent. That was excellently subtle trolling.
26) The incidentalness of Rudy was spot on- anything else would cheapen Murphy. Murphy went down to her own world

More to come

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She's not a Valkyrie, she's an Einherjar. That's explicit from Gard.

Protection from Susan literally lasted years.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Barbara Books Q&A
« on: September 30, 2020, 08:21:21 PM »
Those are bindings.

It's a total monkey's paw/letter of request situation.

"I want you to eliminate the White Council problem."

*kills Kemmler*

He doesn't want to release a rival. Even becoming a god- since he already had immortality- is a means, not an ends. We don't know what his endgame was.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Barbara Books Q&A
« on: September 30, 2020, 08:06:21 PM »
Bindings are difficult and the beings aren't trustworthy.

Anything he released to annihilate the council- could he confine it himself?

"I bind you to me, for me you must destroy the White Council."

*Pause*

"What's that?"

"I incited thermonuclear war/the plague to end all plagues. Trust me, Council's gone. Good luck with the fallout."

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who runs the White Council?
« on: September 30, 2020, 07:49:32 PM »
Jim likes subverting tropes and sayings. Bob is a literal talking head. Thomas doesn't trust anything.

Slang for a paragon hero? Being on the side of the angels.

The Council think they are- they are supposed to, or consider themselves, humanity's representatives in the supernatural community.

They're not. They're fighting against the guy who literally is.

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DF Spoilers / Re: HUGE BATTLE GROUND SPOILERS - (Un)Answered questions
« on: September 30, 2020, 07:46:46 PM »
Namshiel can probably provide the Sight

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DF Spoilers / Re: What's the deal with the horrible communication skills?
« on: September 30, 2020, 07:44:08 PM »
Yes, but at this point anyway I don't think Harry or Lara want it.   

Harry didn't start this war, casually or otherwise.  Though I think it is pretty clear that the Fomor are a cat's paw of the Outsiders, which puts Harry smack in the middle of it.  Yeah, the White Council is going to bleed, but so is everyone.


That has nothing to do with my point. To make it explicit: Harry has so much ka-BOOM he could have made a massive difference a long time ago- to those outside who don't know better.

If you don't know about the ritual the Red Court themselves prepped, you're just a line Warden or wizard living in fear during the war, and this one guy just comes in after years of warfare and ends it- where the heck was he the entire time?

His then doing the same to Ethniu/the Formor makes it look like he doesn't care how many shanks the White Council eats. If one chooses to view it so.

Makes it look like he doesn't care enough to throw down for the Council

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DF Spoilers / Re: What's happening in Peace Talks?
« on: September 30, 2020, 07:38:47 PM »
We're forced into the alternate interpretation: Nemesis doesn't necessarily have a lot to offer mortals compared to those compelled to magical rules of behavior.

However, a nearly non-functional manic type? Offering normalcy is an attractive offer.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Rudolph: Battlegrounds Heavy Spoilers
« on: September 30, 2020, 07:36:56 PM »
Who is claiming Murphy isn't an Einherjar now?

The Valkyries are the security consultants. Seems like she offered Valkyrie in Aftermath. Turned it down. But when she died, she was collected for the Einherjar.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What's the deal with the horrible communication skills?
« on: September 30, 2020, 06:56:43 PM »
Every conversation Harry has with Carlos after he's injured reads very differently if you read it where Carlos assumes Harry knows what happened with Molly.

They don't have a conversation where Harry doesn't threaten him with Molly, as I recall- I thought it heavy-handed. It's always at that point that Carlos twitches.

Harry is assuming that Carlos is such a straight-arrow that he'd feel obligated to report everything- so anything he tells Carlos isn't necessarily confidential.

Carlos assumes Harry knows about Molly, and is always threatening him casually. Also, from a Warden perspective- and Harry has been a Warden until being kicked out this book!- how rough has the war with the Fomor been? And Harry casually raises an army of Little Folk, brings in Bigfoot as backup, slaps Drakul a bit, mashes a couple of Eldar black court vampires, and finally brings down Ethniu.

Harry admires how Carlos can throw such low-energy punches endlessly, because Harry's swing-for-the-fences approach is exhausting. Now see it from Carlos's perspective: Harry can punch like Ebenezer, again and again and again and again. Why the hell didn't he take it to the Fomor? It's the Red Court all over again. Harry casually starts a war, the White Council bleeds for it, the Red Court goes after Harry personally and he annihilates them. From a distance, that's what it looks like- Harry's been holding back.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Barbara Books Q&A
« on: September 30, 2020, 06:49:17 PM »
Who says he didn't? Maybe that explains how he kept coming back to life?

I assume that was either body hopping Capiocorpus style, or he'd performed a low-level Darkhallow that regenerated him slowly.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Rudolph: Battlegrounds Heavy Spoilers
« on: September 30, 2020, 06:47:59 PM »
No, in answer to Harry calling the Valkyrie "virgin daughters of Odin."  She gives him a big kiss and a wink and then says don't believe all that you read.  "Though to be honest, sometimes he doeslike us to call him Daddy."

Here is the quote from Battle Ground page366

So Einherjar, not Valkyrie, and it is pretty clear that we will not be seeing her anymore in this series, because Harry isn't going to forget her.  I also take it to mean she cannot even be an Einherjar till all memory of her has faded.  In other words they don't want her to come back and have people know who she was.

That have her as an Einherjar now because she died.

But Sigrun ran being a Valkyrie by her when she noted that Murphy was even blonde, and Odin liked that.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Rudolph: Battlegrounds Heavy Spoilers
« on: September 30, 2020, 04:49:10 PM »
No, I believe it was explained, much like the elves in LotR immortal doesn't mean you cannot be killed.  The Vakyrie are the daughters of Odin.. She said her family had a history with Grendelkin, she has sisters daughters of Odin, so what happened way back when, is a history of events between them.

No, she explicitly says they are *not* daughters of Odin, but "he does like us to call him Daddy sometimes."

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