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Mira:

--- Quote from: Tinfoil hat on May 21, 2025, 01:41:16 PM ---During turncoat Harry was not a cadet more a lieutenant banging the police captain. He had a whole region and Wardens who report to him. Its the loose cannon on the force banging the chief, the very strict chief . Its Riggs banging the Captain in lethal weapon,
Imagine mike lawrey from bad boys banging his captain.

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Yes, he is a cadet in as much has he had none of the training that the other wardens go through.  You will remember he was drafted in Dead Beat and automatically made Regional Commander for North America.  And again, I agree the Regional Commander banging the Captain of the whole force smells bad, because Harry is seen as loose cannon, and he was banging his commander.  So why wasn't that picked up by anyone?  Could it be subtle manipulation, i.e. nudge, nudge, by Peabody ink so that those on the Senior Council, fellow commanders like Carlos, were aware of it, but because of the nudge, nudge of the Peabody ink chose to look the other way? Something they would not have done if they weren't under the influence.  It's like drinking and driving, maybe not legally drunk by any breath test, i.e. the older wizards, but reflexes slowed just enough to where if something popped up they might not be able to react swift enough, so wreck!  As in what Harry said about some of the decisions that were made during the war with the Red Court.

Talby16:

--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on May 21, 2025, 07:52:01 AM ---Just a thought.  There is a general assumption being made that if Peabody brought a younger member of the Council with him to Demonreach, that person was just muscle; and more important, someone Peabody mind raped into being his thrall.

What if Peabody brought a younger member of the Council, but not a thrall?  Someone who made a conscious choice to join The Black Council; or whatever they call their alliance, because they had their own grievance against the White Council?  You don't have to be old and disillusioned to betray your principles and the people who trust you.  There is also the possibility this person was a plant from the beginning.  Like the Matt Damon character in the Scorcese movie, The Departed. 

We don't know the backstory of any of the younger Wardens Harry befriended.  Of course, only two of them are still alive.  (I'm assuming Chandler is still alive, somewhere.)

It's just something to consider and keep in mind.

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Excellent point. I admit that I was thinking younger wizard as thrall not younger wizard as ally at the island. This wrinkle opens up a whole new world of possibilities. Does anyone know where Carlos is during this fight on the island?

Mira:

--- Quote ---Excellent point. I admit that I was thinking younger wizard as thrall not younger wizard as ally at the island. This wrinkle opens up a whole new world of possibilities. Does anyone know where Carlos is during this fight on the island?

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Is he even mentioned?  A couple of points, Carlos is a team player for the most part unlike Harry, in other words he'd spend more time at headquarters, signing orders and exposed to Peabody ink. Carlos in spite of his position is one of the younger wizards, more vulnerable to it's effects.  Did anyone bother to see if Carlos was affected by the ink?  If not rehabbed is the effect of the ink long lasting, and his ill fated sexual encounter with Molly just cemented his paranoia and feelings against Harry.

Tinfoil hat:

--- Quote from: Mira on May 25, 2025, 01:10:54 PM ---Is he even mentioned?  A couple of points, Carlos is a team player for the most part unlike Harry, in other words he'd spend more time at headquarters, signing orders and exposed to Peabody ink. Carlos in spite of his position is one of the younger wizards, more vulnerable to it's effects.  Did anyone bother to see if Carlos was affected by the ink?  If not rehabbed is the effect of the ink long lasting, and his ill fated sexual encounter with Molly just cemented his paranoia and feelings against Harry.

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Every young wizard was affected Carlos included. The WC instituted some changes to its mental defense training but it wasn't as robust as Harry would have liked hence him and Molly training on their own. He was rehabed but trauma so close to other trauma will reopen old wounds

Mira:

--- Quote ---Every young wizard was affected Carlos included. The WC instituted some changes to its mental defense training but it wasn't as robust as Harry would have liked hence him and Molly training on their own. He was rehabed but trauma so close to other trauma will reopen old wounds

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The ink was a different thing from defense against mental attack, which is mind to mind.  That isn't the case with the Peabody ink, that was the effect of the ink's contact with the skin, then getting into the bloodstream and that way to the brain.  The only reason Harry wasn't affected along with everyone else is avoided headquarters and signing anything from Peabody.  Remember when he first arrived to investigate the murder Peabody was eager to have Harry sign some papers that he had.  Harry didn't because he was too busy with his investigation so it was mere luck that he wasn't  also affected.

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