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EBRIEN:
Obviously, I've been rereading.  ;D

Near the end of Turncoat, Dresden and McCoy are talking about the fact that Peabody wasn't by himself on the island. Who was the 2nd person? Did we find out and I missed it along the way? Do we think this was Cowl joining him in Chicago? Some other Black Council wizard/entity?

Hope all are well. Cheers!

Brien

Talby16:
I have always assumed it was Black Council. Cowl or Kumori are the most likely suspects because they are the ones we have met. There are most likely other Black Council members, but I think at this point it will be someone we know in the shadows not someone we haven't seen yet.

g33k:

--- Quote from: EBRIEN on May 10, 2025, 08:02:01 PM --- ... Near the end of Turncoat, Dresden and McCoy are talking about the fact that Peabody wasn't by himself on the island. Who was the 2nd person? Did we find out and I missed it along the way? Do we think this was Cowl joining him in Chicago? Some other Black Council wizard/entity? ...
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The "most sensible" answer, IMO -- and almost certainly, the wrong one -- is one of the Wardens, as a bodyguard.  It'd make excellent tactico-strategic sense to bring one along; and he has ample mental controls in place to do so (he had Luccio commit murder against a senior council member!), so bringing along a "fine thrall" combat-wizard looks like a very good tactical move.

But, of course, that's just a narrative dead end; there's fundamentally no mystery in that, no "payoff" in dropping the hint, little to no interesting "reveal" later as to who it was.

How about it being Cristos, or some other White Council member (maybe one who's also Black Council)?

Talby16:

--- Quote from: g33k on May 13, 2025, 03:59:07 PM ---The "most sensible" answer, IMO -- and almost certainly, the wrong one -- is one of the Wardens, as a bodyguard.  It'd make excellent tactico-strategic sense to bring one along; and he has ample mental controls in place to do so (he had Luccio commit murder against a senior council member!), so bringing along a "fine thrall" combat-wizard looks like a very good tactical move.

But, of course, that's just a narrative dead end; there's fundamentally no mystery in that, no "payoff" in dropping the hint, little to no interesting "reveal" later as to who it was.

How about it being Cristos, or some other White Council member (maybe one who's also Black Council)?

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Great answer. I agree that bringing "muscle" like a warden would make sense, but narratively unsatisfying. I assumed it was either a peer or a subordinate, but I like the idea of a superior better. Someone who is there to keep an eye on the whole situation, but also Peabody and use him as the fall guy if necessary. Cristos definitely fits that bill. We know who was on the island from the senior council. You can count Rasheed out. I like the Langerty being secretly on the Grey Council WAG so that leaves Cristos (technically not on the Senior Council at this time) and Martha Liberty.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Talby16 on May 13, 2025, 06:05:19 PM --- ... so that leaves Cristos (technically not on the Senior Council at this time) and Martha Liberty.
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I think we have a large number of named/identified (but minimally-seen) characters who potentially might be that "unindicted co-conspirator" on the WC... Klaus the Toymaker, the whole list (Montjoy, Lucciozi, Gomez, etc) recited before Ebenezer got named to the Senior Council, and maybe some others I'm not recalling.

Offhand, I don't see any good reason to suppose it's any one of them over another.

Cristos -- specifically -- strikes me as particularly narratively-useful in his very vagueness:  "is he evil... or just stupid?" but also that just-trying-to-get-by everyman.  Despite being a skillful wizard, he's busy with politicking and reputational advancement, trying to "business-as-usual" the problems away.

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