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Have there been any . . .
vincentric:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 14, 2024, 12:00:07 PM --- We know they can wear the four, Mother, Queen, Lady, Knight, but it cannot be assumed without evidence that it is true for the other mantles.
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Since we know that some can be worn, it's safer to believe that others can be also. Unless you have evidence that states that these mantles are special. They very well could be, but in absence of the statement of a special case, then we should apply the general rule.
g33k:
--- Quote from: vincentric on June 26, 2024, 04:07:44 PM ---Since we know that some can be worn, it's safer to believe that others can be also. Unless you have evidence that states that these mantles are special. They very well could be, but in absence of the statement of a special case, then we should apply the general rule.
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Agreed; the Queenmantles are *incredibly* powerful, but can be worn by humans.
I don't think any of them (other than the Mothers) will be tougher to handle.
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on June 26, 2024, 05:00:15 PM ---Agreed; the Queenmantles are *incredibly* powerful, but can be worn by humans.
I don't think any of them (other than the Mothers) will be tougher to handle.
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We don't know though, we know that the Knights of the Winter Court have a very hard time. Though that maybe a point of view.. It also isn't a picnic for the Ladies of ether Court, again depends on perspective I suppose.. Since we've had no new Queens, Mothers, or Others on page anyway, we don't know if they also have had problems adjusting to their new power or their power i.e. the mantle adjusting to them..
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 26, 2024, 10:29:53 PM ---We don't know though, we know that the Knights of the Winter Court have a very hard time. Though that maybe a point of view.. It also isn't a picnic for the Ladies of ether Court, again depends on perspective I suppose.. Since we've had no new Queens, Mothers, or Others on page anyway, we don't know if they also have had problems adjusting to their new power or their power i.e. the mantle adjusting to them..
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Bob's testimony is that within (IIRC) 10ish years, the Winter Ladymantle will largely override the will of the bearer. "Welcome to the new Maeve, just like the old Maeve," he says.
I think we are seeing some signs that Molly is being more resilient than that... but only some signs (I cannot imagine pre-Mantle Molly exacting a price of any sort to do protective spellwork for Harry (as just one example)), with Winter Law remaining inviolable.
Agreed that the WK-mantle is "tough" on the Knights. But I think that's largely a matter of Winter being inherently harsh & brutal; I expect the SK-mantle gets its way more with gentle pressure, continuous sensuality, temptations of all sorts.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 26, 2024, 12:08:53 PM ---She may not have been the mastermind, but neither was she a mere pawn on the chess board. As a chess board piece, she may have ranked as high as queen..
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Maybe, but based on what her simulacrum said, and what others have said about her, I suspect she was at best a rook or a bishop, not a queen. Though I'm sure she thought she was a queen at one stage. :lol:
I'm fairly confident that at one time, Margaret absolutely would have considered herself to be a chessmistress, even as people like Lord Raith and Heaven only knows who else were pulling her strings and pushing her buttons.
IIRC, JB has said that one of Margaret's motives for getting entangled with LR in the first place was that she wanted some supersex. Which is not all that different from deliberately seeking out heroin or crack cocaine for the thrill, except that it's worse in that in this case the heroin is sapient and can plot against you. It's not the sort of self-destructive move that a genuine chessmaster would be likely to indulge.
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