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Lord Kinbote:
Spoilery discussions, speculations, theorizing, etc. over Dresden's mother's life and death?  Or who Dresden's maternal grandmother is?  I've searched the DF Spoiler folders without luck.  Thanks.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Lord Kinbote on April 12, 2024, 09:17:58 PM ---Spoilery discussions, speculations, theorizing, etc. over Dresden's mother's life and death?  Or who Dresden's maternal grandmother is?  I've searched the DF Spoiler folders without luck.  Thanks.
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Margaret LaFey, aka Maggie Sr?
Yes, she has featured here & has been theorized-about a fair bit.

Her mother -- Ebenezer's wife(?) -- has IIRC been WoJ'ed as a full-mortal.

LostInTime:

--- Quote from: g33k on April 13, 2024, 01:49:48 AM ---Margaret LaFey, aka Maggie Sr?
Yes, she has featured here & has been theorized-about a fair bit.

Her mother -- Ebenezer's wife(?) -- has IIRC been WoJ'ed as a full-mortal.

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Ebenezer's wife was a full mortal, without magic. IIRC, Jim's words were that she was a vanilla mortal.

Nowhere in that statement was anything that could be construed as saying that Ebenezer's wife was Magaret's mother. Anything else is presumption.

I was coming here to post this thought on Magaret.
Do we know that Margaret died from Lord Raith's entropy curse? What if she traded her life to Lea in her bargain for Lea to protect Harry? She could have still levelled her death curse at Lord Raith. And nobody outside the bargain would be the wiser.

Harry makes incorrect assumptions all the time. Why couldn't powerful supernaturals do the same? "I shot my entropy curse at her and she died. Ergo, I must have killed her."

g33k:

--- Quote from: LostInTime on June 05, 2024, 03:01:54 PM --- ...
Do we know that Margaret died from Lord Raith's entropy curse? What if she traded her life to Lea in her bargain for Lea to protect Harry? She could have still levelled her death curse at Lord Raith. And nobody outside the bargain would be the wiser.

Harry makes incorrect assumptions all the time. Why couldn't powerful supernaturals do the same? "I shot my entropy curse at her and she died. Ergo, I must have killed her."
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I kinda-sorta agree; but with a twist.  Herewith, my WAG on that:

I think Margaret's bargain (which was struck before Harry was born) was to protect Harry (with some "interesting" loopholes, undoubtedly:  these are faerie deals, after all!).  I think that deal protected Margaret too, while Harry was in utero; but then "died in childbirth" was the hovering entropy-curse killing her the moment she had given birth.

I think Lea absolutely expected it to work out that way (WoJ is that when/if Harry learns what Lea did, he's gonna be enraged with her -- I expect this is one element of that).

I think Margaret LaFey was fae-savvy enough to expect the same:  she got her "Darth Vader turns back to Anakin" moment in her relationship with Malcolm, but she knew her past would catch up with her and so didn't really expect to live much longer; and so she leveraged everything she could to make sure LukeHarry had the protection he'd need, in order to survive into adulthood.

Lord Kinbote:
I expect something far more convoluted and dark.  Say, Lea agreed to hide and protect Margaret from Lord Raith if she followed Lea's instructions (from Mab or the Queen Mothers) so that Margaret would give birth a starborn that Mab needed to beat the Outsiders.  And Malcom's death was also caused/orchestrated so that Justin could eventually begin sharpening Harry into the weapon Mab needed.

Though I'm fuzzy about why McCoy didn't know about Harry, or maybe he was part of Project Breed a Starborn.

Lea is interesting.  Lea is the most powerful member of the Winter Court after Mab.  So more powerful than the Winter Lady, but not in the line of succession.  Also, for every other high member of the Winter Court, there appears to be a counterpart in Summer.  Except Lea, as far as revealed.  Why no Summer counterpart?  Is Lea truly something different/special hiding in plain sight?

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