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Have there been any . . .
Mira:
--- Quote ---IIRC, JB has said that one of Margaret's motives for getting entangled with LR in the first place was that she wanted some supersex. Which is not all that different from deliberately seeking out heroin or crack cocaine for the thrill, except that it's worse in that in this case the heroin is sapient and can plot against you. It's not the sort of self-destructive move that a genuine chessmaster would be likely to indulge.
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No, but if Margaret was one of the chess pieces she wouldn't be able to control those moves, would she. Now who do we know who really considers herself a true chess master, maybe even of three dimensional chess? Does the name, Mab, ring a bell? Mab is a great chess master but she isn't infallible and while she has made some great moves, and often is ahead in the game, sometimes she chooses the wrong pieces to make those moves. She may have seen or predicted that Margaret could bare a star child, but she picked the wrong piece to pair her with the first time around.
We know that Margaret was pretty screwed up when she took up with Lord Raith. She was angry, rebelling against her father and the White Council, seeking super sex with a WCV would be one way to express it. In steps the chess master, Mab, thinking four moves down the road, the breeding of a star child. Mab's huge weakness is she no longer understands human nature, in other words on paper the pairing looked great, in reality it sucked.
g33k:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on June 28, 2024, 04:44:38 AM --- ...
I'm fairly confident that at one time, Margaret absolutely would have considered herself to be a chessmistress, even as people like Lord Raith and Heaven only knows who else were pulling her strings and pushing her buttons ...
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I dunno, I think she saw herself more in the "loner" role, rebelling against the "system."
Not a player in the game, which would have made her part of the system.
Later, I think she came to the realization that she just didn't have enough power, a lone WCWizard, to make the changes she wanted... so she started making alliances, started "playing the game." Even then, I don't think she saw herself as a master-manipulator "chessmistress" sort of player.
Trying to become the mother of the Starbabe was, I think, her Big Move.
Ironically, the "main" effort (with Lord Raith + Arianna Ortega + likely others (so far AFAIK unnamed)) didn't work out; at least, I've been presuming the "Starbabe" plan was what Maggie was trying to recruit Ebenezer for, that fateful party where Arianna noticed Eb & Maggie "fighting like family."
But then she abandoned that plan & those allies, ran away, fell in love with Malcolm Dresden... and then had a Starbabe. I'm sure that part of her was cursing the ironies of Fate-or-whatever.
g33k:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on June 28, 2024, 04:44:38 AM --- ... IIRC, JB has said that one of Margaret's motives for getting entangled with LR in the first place was that she wanted some supersex ...
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My own memory is otherwise: it wasn't part of her motivation to start the affair, but supersex just kinda happens when you're involved with whampires.
Mira:
--- Quote ---But then she abandoned that plan & those allies, ran away, fell in love with Malcolm Dresden... and then had a Starbabe. I'm sure that part of her was cursing the ironies of Fate-or-whatever.
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I think you got that backwards, according to Eb in Blood Rites, and I believe what Lash says as well, somewhere Margaret met Malcolm, fell in love, then had the "courage" to leave Lord Raith.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 29, 2024, 11:26:52 AM ---I think you got that backwards, according to Eb in Blood Rites, and I believe what Lash says as well, somewhere Margaret met Malcolm, fell in love, then had the "courage" to leave Lord Raith.
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The dresdenfiles wiki -- which is not a guaranteed-correct resource, but AFAIK overwhelmingly more correct than not in simple matters of fact -- says Margaret left Papa Raith and met Malcolm sometime during the following year.
" ... When her son was about five, she escaped Lord Raith, abandoning Thomas to the mercy of his father, who had killed all his other sons. The next year[5], she met Malcolm Dresden."
The (moderately official, and usually very acurate) DF timeline says Maggie left Raith before she met Malcolm.
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