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LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 28, 2024, 01:06:13 PM ---
I agree Dina, true love isn't easily broken, not by a bit of unfaithfulness, because true love often defies logic. More confusing, the partner who was unfaithful may lose protection, but should the faithful one, who still might truly love the other lose his or hers?
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They don't.
If John and Jane Doe are Protected by their mutual love and active sexual life, and Jane for whatever reason has a one night stand that she regrets on a business trip...Jane is now vulnerable, John is still protected. Again, that's not a reward, just How It Works. If he stays celibate for the rest of his life, he's Protected for the rest of his life, unless something else wipes it away.
Does it matter if Jane cheated because she was drunk and not thinking straight? Nope. Does the fact that John is sometimes a complete jerk to other people undo his protection? Nope. It's not about fairness or justice or morality.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 28, 2024, 01:06:13 PM ---I think it would be a mistake to believe that Nemesis isn't capable of that, that's why they are such a threat.
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--- Quote from: g33k on June 28, 2024, 09:06:40 PM ---This hardly seems insurmountable.
Nemesis is a Walker, one of the most-powerful of all Outsiders.
If Justine is Nemfected, it hardly seems outside Nemesis' power to create some burns when a whampire touches her.
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It's more than just touching. Nemesis would have to initiate the burn when, and only when, a WV tries to feed on her. Which means Nemesis would have to accurately assess the mental state and intentions of every WV that touched Justine, to know whether the contact was a feeding attempt or not. If Lara accidentally brushes Justine's arm in the course of a day, and kept her Hunger leashed (as she usually does) and gets burned anyway...
As for whether Nemesis can do that...well, yeah, maybe it can. We don't have any definite data to say it can't. But we also don't have any definite data in the other direction. It's pure guesswork.
Here's where Occam's Razor cuts usefully.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote ---I remember reading that even a wedding ring of someone sharing true love will burn a WCV. Again true love doesn't depend on sex!
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But contact is required, as far as we know. The same tainted energy then spreads into the object, if it's a symbol of that Love. But it can't be just any object, it has to somehow symbolize the love in question.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Does it matter if Jane cheated because she was drunk and not thinking straight? Nope. Does the fact that John is sometimes a complete jerk to other people undo his protection? Nope. It's not about fairness or justice or morality.
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I think it does matter, if Jane was drunk, she cannot be held responsible fully for what happened. Cheating on someone is a choice..
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 01, 2024, 04:43:21 AM --- I think it does matter, if Jane was drunk, she cannot be held responsible fully for what happened. Cheating on someone is a choice..
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But it's not about morality or choice or responsibility. Before she cheated, John's energy lay over her and made her toxic to the White Court Hunger. After sex with someone else, either that energy is wiped away or diluted out or covered over, and a WV is free to feed on her. The question is not whether she was responsible or not. It's whether the unloving sex happened to wipe out the protection.
Again, it's no different than if she got pregnant while engaged in drunken sex that she regrets. Yeah, she was drunk. Yeah, she desperately wishes she had been faithful, and fully intends to stay faithful from now on. But she's still pregnant and John is still not the father.
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