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Harry is a Dad...Again..😳
Mira:
--- Quote ---But it's not about morality or choice or responsibility. Before she cheated, John's energy lay over her and made her toxic to the White Court Hunger. After sex with someone else, either that energy is wiped away or diluted out or covered over, and a WV is free to feed on her. The question is not whether she was responsible or not. It's whether the unloving sex happened to wipe out the protection.
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If that be the case, then the concept of true love is BS isn't it? Already there has been some debate on whether Michael/Charity, Malcolm/Margaret etc are or aren't cases for true love. How do you define the difference between mere monogamy [not true love,] and monogamy that is true love? It isn't about morality, that's not what I am talking about, morality has nothing to do with it, but emotion has everything to do with it. The White Court Demon feeds off of emotion, true love is an emotion, an emotion so strong that it burns the demon and it's host. In your own definition of what blows the protection, you call it cheating.. Calling it cheating implies a moral judgement of infidelity, it is also an emotional choice to have sexual contact with another.. It's that emotional choice in my opinion that blows the protection, not the physical sex itself. Rape, or accidental sex when one isn't in a state to make a responsible emotional choice to have it, shouldn't break the protection, because the emotions of that person for his or her beloved partner remains the same.
vincentric:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 01, 2024, 12:39:24 PM --- If that be the case, then the concept of true love is BS isn't it? Already there has been some debate on whether Michael/Charity, Malcolm/Margaret etc are or aren't cases for true love. How do you define the difference between mere monogamy [not true love,] and monogamy that is true love? It isn't about morality, that's not what I am talking about, morality has nothing to do with it, but emotion has everything to do with it. The White Court Demon feeds off of emotion, true love is an emotion, an emotion so strong that it burns the demon and it's host. In your own definition of what blows the protection, you call it cheating.. Calling it cheating implies a moral judgement of infidelity, it is also an emotional choice to have sexual contact with another.. It's that emotional choice in my opinion that blows the protection, not the physical sex itself. Rape, or accidental sex when one isn't in a state to make a responsible emotional choice to have it, shouldn't break the protection, because the emotions of that person for his or her beloved partner remains the same.
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It's a combination of emotion and mechanics though. The protection is a two-part thing that needs both to work.
To establish the protection, you have to be in love and then have sex with that loved one. From then on, as long as you are faithful to each other physically the protection is up. It will not expire as long as the love lasts, but sex with another, willing or unwilling, breaks the protection. It can then be rebuilt by having sex with the loved one again. It can be a bug or a feature but that's entirely dependent on circumstances.
Mira:
--- Quote from: vincentric on July 01, 2024, 03:21:07 PM ---It's a combination of emotion and mechanics though. The protection is a two-part thing that needs both to work.
To establish the protection, you have to be in love and then have sex with that loved one. From then on, as long as you are faithful to each other physically the protection is up. It will not expire as long as the love lasts, but sex with another, willing or unwilling, breaks the protection. It can then be rebuilt by having sex with the loved one again. It can be a bug or a feature but that's entirely dependent on circumstances.
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It still doesn't answer the question about what is the difference between ordinary love, not protected, and true love, protected.. I can see the first easily broken, but not the second, human emotions just don't work that way.
vincentric:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 01, 2024, 05:17:43 PM ---It still doesn't answer the question about what is the difference between ordinary love, not protected, and true love, protected.. I can see the first easily broken, but not the second, human emotions just don't work that way.
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What is or isn't True Love is a question for Jim. So far, the protection has only been broken through the mechanical component of sex. We've never seen a situation of falling out of love breaking it
Mira:
--- Quote from: vincentric on July 01, 2024, 08:25:57 PM ---What is or isn't True Love is a question for Jim. So far, the protection has only been broken through the mechanical component of sex. We've never seen a situation of falling out of love breaking it
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Which is weird, how do you fall out of true love? I wonder if anyone has ever asked Jim that? That's why I have said as a reader that while on the page the concept of true love burning the Hunger Demon, it's best not to over think it because a lot of aspects of it doesn't really make sense.
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