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Harry is a Dad...Again..😳
g33k:
--- Quote from: Regenbogen on June 27, 2024, 06:20:51 AM --- ... If I remember correctly, Justine started to be herself again in White Night, when she lead Harry and Carlos to the Raith Deeps. This would also have been the time when she and Thomas started being together again...
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If I recall correctly:
- That was the first time we saw her "being herself again" onscreen, but her self-report was that it had been happening for a while (and she displayed lots of broad awareness of the larger situation, just as if she had largely been compos mentis for a good long time)
- She wasn't yet being with Thomas, but said she expected she'd be able "to go back to her lord" soon.
g33k:
--- Quote from: vincentric on June 27, 2024, 02:01:50 PM --- ... After Ghost Story and Cold Days, he regularly visited the Svartalves, so if he had it, it was frequently removed ...
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We know that -- as of the end of Ghost Story -- Thomas & Justine regularly removed the protection (or, if the theory of a Nemesis-fueled pseudo-protection is correct: Justine pretended to remove a protection that was never there).
Does seem kind of odd to anyone else that Thomas would be regularly visiting the Svartalves to sate his Hunger, when he & Justine have a very-workable solution at home...?
Maybe it's just that -- as with Connie Barrowill & Irwin Pounder -- a powerful nonhuman is simply a method he's using to eat deeply & satisfy the Hunger without killing a mortal. But still, something "feels off" to me, in this.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Dina on June 27, 2024, 01:51:58 PM ---... That contradicts what Jim said before, about the potential for life.
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Also: can you provide a cite?
Not that I doubt you, but I'd like to go read it for more context, other clues, etc.
vincentric:
--- Quote from: g33k on June 27, 2024, 08:42:24 PM ---We know that -- as of the end of Ghost Story -- Thomas & Justine regularly removed the protection (or, if the theory of a Nemesis-fueled pseudo-protection is correct: Justine pretended to remove a protection that was never there).
Does seem kind of odd to anyone else that Thomas would be regularly visiting the Svartalves to sate his Hunger, when he & Justine have a very-workable solution at home...?
Maybe it's just that -- as with Connie Barrowill & Irwin Pounder -- a powerful nonhuman is simply a method he's using to eat deeply & satisfy the Hunger without killing a mortal. But still, something "feels off" to me, in this.
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Convenience probably. The arrangement with the Svartalves removes the need to search for human partners though there's no indication one way or another that they stopped using them. Thomas feeding from a number of sources looks more normal to other WC vampires also, so less threat to Justine from that angle.
Dina:
--- Quote from: g33k on June 27, 2024, 08:59:53 PM ---Also: can you provide a cite?
Not that I doubt you, but I'd like to go read it for more context, other clues, etc.
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Ok people, I definitely was wrong. And of course I am very, very sorry. In answer to this I've been checking and I found what I quote below. I swear I was not dreaming. I am sure in some moment Jim said the Protection involved the potential for creating life (more or less like the sex magic in the books). But apparently many years ago he said another thing...and I do not if this helps us or not. Personally I am much more confused, because if True Love is, well, you know, just love, then how can it be so easily broken? I don't know, see for yourselves.
Source: https://wordof.jim-butcher.com/index.php/word-of-jim-woj-compilation/woj-on-vampires/
2009 Lexington signing:
Q: What protections are there against the White Court?
A: True love – real true love, not just romantic love – protects only against WC vamps feeding through lust/intimacy.
2010 Lee’s Summit signing
Q: Do you have to have sex in order to have protection from the White Court?
A: No, you don’t have to. It is helpful, though.
Q: Can homosexuals be protected from the White Court?
A: Of course. Any time it is Real Love between equals, there’s the possibility of protection. A parent and child couldn’t be protected because they are not equals.
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