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Harry is a Dad...Again..😳
Mira:
--- Quote ---Now that I think about the sex: the random joggers were at the beginning of Dead Beat when Thomas already lived with Harry for one year. Confirmed by the timeline https://www.jim-butcher.com/timeline#sf
During that time, Justine was still at the Raith mansion, recovering from Blood Rites.
I am guessing the (fake) true love magic started after she got better and they started to have sex again. Was this during White Night? If yes, it would be 2 years after Dead Beat.
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I don't think they had sex of any kind from Blood Rites until after that scene in Ghost Story when Justine came home with her lesbian friend, had sex with her, which broke her true love protection. That was the point of that scene once there was true love between them, Thomas couldn't touch Justine without being burnt, so up to that scene no sex between them. That was the point of the scene in the bar or night club where happy Thomas has his arm around Justine which surprises Harry, and they show him she is wearing a special skin tight rubber suit so he really isn't touching her. I don't think I dreamed that scene, but I cannot remember which book it is from.
Dina:
You did not dream the rubber suit scene, I remember that too. i do not remember the book.
I also forgot it was a lesbian friend who they use to break Justine's protection. That contradicts what Jim said before, about the potential for life.
vincentric:
Thinking back, we don't actually know that Thomas has the protection, just that Justine does.
Justine burns Thomas and Madeleine, but Madeleine is not burned by Thomas. After Ghost Story and Cold Days, he regularly visited the Svartalves, so if he had it, it was frequently removed. He certainly does not burn Lara on the trip to Demonreach in Peace Talks. Perhaps the protection does not protect WC vampires.
Mira:
--- Quote from: vincentric on June 27, 2024, 02:01:50 PM ---Thinking back, we don't actually know that Thomas has the protection, just that Justine does.
Justine burns Thomas and Madeleine, but Madeleine is not burned by Thomas. After Ghost Story and Cold Days, he regularly visited the Svartalves, so if he had it, it was frequently removed. He certainly does not burn Lara on the trip to Demonreach in Peace Talks. Perhaps the protection does not protect WC vampires.
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Agreed, we also know if true love happens before the first feeding, the Hunger Demon can be burned out. That was the hope for Inari in Blood Rites. Thomas had his first feeding until death and his demon is engaged, he is a WCV.. It would make sense that once that happens the host shouldn't be able to feel true love again, because why would the parasite want to die once it matures and is feeding.. I know want is a poor word to use, but the parasite/demon depends on the host feeding to survive.. Vamps can feel love, Thomas loved Justine, supposedly true love, and Lara loves her little brother, a different kind of love.. Maybe it is something that superficially sounds cool, but doesn't stand up to logic if you think too deeply about it? Or the reason it doesn't stand up is Justine has never felt true love for Thomas, and it's been a Nemesis set up all along..
g33k:
--- Quote from: Dina on June 27, 2024, 01:51:58 PM --- ... That contradicts what Jim said before, about the potential for life.
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This is a very interesting point.
Did Jim mess up? Or has he dropped a clue?
Or just changed his mind, and retcon'ed the "true love" protection to include same-sex couples?
Maybe future stories will reveal things; or maybe someone could ask a pointed question during an AMA or other Q&A event.
Or maybe we'll wonder 'til the very end, because Jim's an Evil Bastad(tm).
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