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Harry is a Dad...Again..😳

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Dina:
I see the situation of becoming a WK differently. Harry was the one asking for it, initiating the deal. It is different that if Mab has taken Maggie as a hostage and asked Harry to have sex with her. And if now that he already is the WK Mab forces him to have sex, I think Mira has a point, it should not break the protection.

vincentric:
Unfortunately, the true love protection can be invalidated by force.

In Turncoat, Madeline threatens to kidnap Justine and use her powers to have her have sex with a random partner so that she can then devour her. Thomas takes this very seriously and proceed to beat the brakes off her, so we know this is a valid threat.

Dina:
I was going to say that we did not see it working and Madeline is not a trust source, but you are right, Thomas believed her.  And he should know.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Dina on June 24, 2024, 04:36:15 PM ---I was going to say that we did not see it working and Madeline is not a trust source, but you are right, Thomas believed her.  And he should know.

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Or does he?  Has this been tested?  What is strange is why if a simple sex act with anyone can break the protection why didn't Thomas and Justine think about her having sex with someone else a long time before she finally did in Ghost Story?  Or at what point did their love become, "true love"?  Supposedly Blood Rites, but didn't they love one another before? Thomas happily fed off of her without being burnt for years..  Did he stop feeding because he was willing to die than kill her, or because it began to burn him?   

Regenbogen:

--- Quote from: Mira on June 25, 2024, 12:21:03 PM ---Or does he?  Has this been tested?  What is strange is why if a simple sex act with anyone can break the protection why didn't Thomas and Justine think about her having sex with someone else a long time before she finally did in Ghost Story?  Or at what point did their love become, "true love"?  Supposedly Blood Rites, but didn't they love one another before? Thomas happily fed off of her without being burnt for years..  Did he stop feeding because he was willing to die than kill her, or because it began to burn him?

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As for why didn't they use other sex partners: no idea. Weird.

When did true love begin: presumably during Blood Rites, BUT I honestly don't believe that it is true love. I think after the almost fatal feeding, Nemesis took over completely and whatever was left of the real Justine (also not sure we have ever seen the real Justine at all) died. The whole true love stuff has been faked by Nemesis. And I hope the pregnancy is also fake, because this would be extremely dark.

Faked true love burn is easy. Any wizard could do it, if they work concentrated and precise. Even the shawl Justine gave to Thomas could just be a cursed object which burns WCVs when their skin is exposed to it.

And I also think, just sleeping with anyone else is too easy. There must be something more behind breaking a true love "curse".

And didn't Thomas regularly have joggers in Harry's bed. I assume they had sex there. So if the curse is broken when one of the partners sleeps with someone else, why did Justine still burn Thomas? Or did he stop having sex with others once he became a hairdresser?
Or do BOTH true love partners need to have sex with others?

Will we ever know?

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