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Harry is a Dad...Again..😳
Mira:
--- Quote ---The only needed "drug" is already in Harry's system: the hyper-sexual & hyper-aggressive WK Mantle.
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But technically, is that is mantel not Harry. It was Harry and not the mantel that shared true love with Murphy... So Harry is still protected.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 21, 2024, 09:43:46 PM --- ... But technically, is that is mantel not Harry. It was Harry and not the mantel that shared true love with Murphy... So Harry is still protected.
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(a) No, it's Harry. The WK-mantle only boosts what's already there, makes some impulses louder than others. Everyone has these dark impulses.
(b) true love's protection vs. whampires isn't relevant to the WK Mantle, its urges, etc... Harry has zero protection from the WKM & Mab's authority under Winter Law (including valid orders such as "go f--k someone before your wedding-day").
Mira:
--- Quote ---(a) No, it's Harry. The WK-mantle only boosts what's already there, makes some impulses louder than others. Everyone has these dark impulses.
(b) true love's protection vs. whampires isn't relevant to the WK Mantle, its urges, etc... Harry has zero protection from the WKM & Mab's authority under Winter Law (including valid orders such as "go f--k someone before your wedding-day").
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[a] I'm not so sure about that... If the mantle boosts impulses that are already there, why wouldn't it boost the loving impulse just as strongly as the dark violent one? After all the love/hate thing seem to exist on the head/tails sides of the emotional coin. So because of the mantle, Harry's true love impulse might be stronger than ever.
Mab has no authority over Harry's emotions and the mantle only enhances them. True love is one of the strongest forces on earth, also I doubt that Mab, even the mantle can force Harry to have sex, it's more complicated than that.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 22, 2024, 07:45:16 PM ---[a] I'm not so sure about that... If the mantle boosts impulses that are already there, why wouldn't it boost the loving impulse just as strongly as the dark violent one?
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Because it's a Winter Mantle. It amplifies Harry's aggression, his territoriality, his sex-drive, his taste for violence.
It quiets his urge to compromise, his caution, and most if not all of his gentler emotions; it cannot mute them, but it often takes Harry an act of will to calm himself, to reconnect with those.
--- Quote from: Mira on June 22, 2024, 07:45:16 PM --- ... also I doubt that Mab, even the mantle can force Harry to have sex, it's more complicated than that.
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I think Winter Law takes no account of love. That doesn't mean the love doesn't exist, doesn't have impact; but love is a mystery to Winter, and the Law does not take it into account. Sex, in the Winter Court, is I think mostly about power; not affection or pleasure.
I'm pretty sure Winter Law would thus consider "go f--k someone" a perfectly valid command from the Queen of Winter.
And the WK Mantle would respond accordingly.
As you note, none of this actually forces Harry to have sex ... But I think he loses the protections of the Mantle if he violates Winter Law so egregiously as disobeying a direct & legla order from the Queen; remember his proclamation "Fuck Winter Law!" in Molly's apartment.
Dina:
I am not sure. It does not seem normally orders Harry things that are not his strict job. I do not think Harry refusing to obey that command you suggest would be considered Harry rejecting Winter itself.
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