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Mira:

--- Quote ---Chauncy doesn’t lie, like a very good lawyer he tells partial truths, qualifies his replies and dangles ‘replies’ designed to elicit further questions from his victim, rather than answer their question.

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Or more like Chauncy works like a slot machine, if you've ever played them you know that while yeah, on occasion you win a jackpot, usually if you put a quarter in, it might give you a few back, daring you to put more money in because there is more where that came from, right? Wrong, what usually happens is you continue to put the quarters in hoping for that jackpot that never comes.. Then you find you are out of money and luck. 

--- Quote ---Harry finally realised this.
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Yeah, he walked away with a few more quarters than he began with, but quit playing because he knew that Chauncy would end up the winner, not him.  And on the whole? No jackpot.

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on November 22, 2022, 06:25:08 PM ---
I really wouldn’t be surprised to find Chauncy working with Nameless/Cowl. How else did the summoning rite for Chauncy get out into the mortal world?

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The summoning rites have been out there. Sells used one. Harry did. They could have gotten the rite from where Harry did. We have no reason to think Harry unique here. 

Mira:

--- Quote from: Ed0517 on November 23, 2022, 08:57:22 AM ---The summoning rites have been out there. Sells used one. Harry did. They could have gotten the rite from where Harry did. We have no reason to think Harry unique here.

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  Yeah, I agree the information is out there if one wants it.   Harry thought he was protected physically from Chauncy by the circle. I'd say Harry's circle was better than the one Sells had, if he had one at all.  Not all circles are the same, and some are forbidden because of what they are designed to contain.  That's why Harry refused to give Kim anymore information once he realized what kind of circle she wanted.  He didn't buy what she had told him, that it was purely informational, since both could lose their heads for making one. He also tried to warn her to no avail that she was in over her head both in skill and experience.  He thought he was doing the right thing by her, but he didn't know about Finn. Kim didn't tell him because she thought she could handle it, I doubt that she understood what Finn was, or how dangerous a Loop is.

Conspiracy Theorist:
Well someone is out there, handing out summoning rituals, magic books and wolf- skin belts probably just for the hell of it to sow discord. Almost as if they were a Demi- God of discord resident in Chicago. This may be Nameless/Cowls weakness, he can’t help sowing discord even if it isn’t part of a larger scheme, like undermining the Winter Court with the Nemesis Athame, or seeking out The Word to remove the qualifier from god, or setting the White Court and White Council at each other’s throats. How many of the events in Chicago that have impinged upon Harry are due to Nameless indirectly?

I have suggested he pushed Maeve in Summer Knight towards her course of action, did he hook Marcone up with the Church Mice and then alert the Denarians just for fun? Was he behind the dogknapping of the puppies? The Circle/Black seem to have been behind it in Zoo Day. Before Changes Nameless/Cowl may have been responsible to some degree for most of Harry’s Files, some by design, some just for gun.

Ed0517:
I don't think the circles are BANNED as such, Harry just won't TEACH Kim because the ones she wanted are designed for things she should not go near. It's like teaching your kid to drive the first time - you do not give your son the keys to a 500 hp Corvette. It's not ILLEGAL to do so, but it is not SMART. Mom's Volvo station wagon is a better choice.  It's like making nitroglycerine and mixing it with DE to make dynamite paste. The end product is pretty stable, but you better know what you are doing along the way, nitro is VERY touchy stuff.  In this case, it's not the circle that is an issue - it's what's inside. 

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