The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
So Fitz is...
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 15, 2022, 11:57:18 AM ---Perhaps he didn't try because there is no way to lift the curse. I need to go back to reread the passage, but I believe Bob said as much. I also think that McFinn and all of his ancestors would have searched for and found it if there was a way. The only way to end it for the McFinns was to end the last McFinn, which Harry did. However that doesn't mean there aren't other families out there suffering from the same kind of curse, so I wouldn't be shocked if there are more Loops out there, they just aren't McFinns.
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The curse bloodline is, what, 1500 years old or so? Even if Fitz wasn't McFinn's son, that's plenty of time for there to be other cousin branches off the family tree for the curse to hop up and over to a next nearest relative.
As for the origin of the curse, I suspect Chauncey's "legend" about it being started by St Patrick was propaganda originated by the Denarians. Back in that era, creating a monster and telling the Irish "look what the Christians did!" probably would have seemed like a clever ploy to thwart conversion of Ireland.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on November 21, 2022, 09:44:47 PM ---The curse bloodline is, what, 1500 years old or so? Even if Fitz wasn't McFinn's son, that's plenty of time for there to be other cousin branches off the family tree for the curse to hop up and over to a next nearest relative.
As for the origin of the curse, I suspect Chauncey's "legend" about it being started by St Patrick was propaganda originated by the Denarians. Back in that era, creating a monster and telling the Irish "look what the Christians did!" probably would have seemed like a clever ploy to thwart conversion of Ireland.
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If Fitz is related to Finn in any way, yeah, the curse can fall on him, unless there is a closer relative. That's how the curse works and keeps alive.. However it doesn't seem to be a common curse, Bob said the last time a Loop really did some serious killing before it was killed was back in the 1600s I believe. Not a lot of them running around, Harry had never heard of them. So I'd say that circle has been in use for quite some time, it could be that St Patrick himself came up with that circle because he couldn't lift the curse, and Chauncy was twisting the truth just a bit. But I also think if Chauncy was a total liar, what would be the point of Harry calling him up for information and risking being controlled by giving Chauncy by giving him bits of his name?
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: g33k on November 19, 2022, 06:41:33 PM ---He's a demon. "Lying" (like violence) is his natural state of being.
He is *capable* of providing true information.
But he does so tactically, strategically.
Where possible (and strategically advantageous) he misleads (recalling that overt lies from Down Under(*) are one of the things that can trigger extra Response from Up Above).
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I would not be surprised if Chauncey WAS allowed to lie, because he had been invoked. Whispering uninvited things in Harry's ear as he lies there was not solicited. Chauncey was. Harry called Chauncey out of free will
Mira:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on November 22, 2022, 05:06:40 AM ---I would not be surprised if Chauncey WAS allowed to lie, because he had been invoked. Whispering uninvited things in Harry's ear as he lies there was not solicited. Chauncey was. Harry called Chauncey out of free will
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Well, has always been free will that has gotten humanity into trouble hasn't it? Ever since Eve of her own free will took a bite of that apple, offered Adam a chomp, and he took it of his own free will. No, I doubt that he could do or say anything to Harry unsolicited, simply because it does involved free will.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Chauncy doesn’t lie, like a very good lawyer he tells partial truths, qualifies his replies and dangles ‘replies’ designed to elicit further questions from his victim, rather than answer their question.
Harry finally realised this.
I really wouldn’t be surprised to find Chauncy working with Nameless/Cowl. How else did the summoning rite for Chauncy get out into the mortal world? Nameless probably entrapped Ms Lapland and at least one Warden that way.
Chauncy could very well be part of the Circle/Black Council. For all we know the Black Council could be a firm of supernatural lawyer.s I won’t say “evil” lawyers, because well they are lawyers and it goes without saying. Add the Jann to the list and you have the firm of Nameless, Glau and Chauncey.
The other known Black Council member, Peabody was yet another paperwork type perhaps the firms paralegal.
We need to look for one of the Fallen bound to a lawyer, the poor thing.
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