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So Fitz is...
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: g33k on December 16, 2022, 02:55:41 PM ---And, one presumes, the Spear of Destiny (or whatever that artifact was, from Hades' vault). THAT, I think, was the crucial element.
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Yes the Spear opens up possibilities which didn’t previously exist, or were not realised in this case allowing Harry to realise Ethnui’s boast about killing the Carpenters was wrong, this realisation boosted his will and allowed him to erode Ethnui’s. Think about it like the time stone in End Game, it allows Harry to select the possibilities where he wins, but he has to seize the chance.
I suspect the Spear is especially potent in Harry’s hands as a Starborn, Harry has been unusually resistant to prophecy, entropy curses and death curses, all things designed to shape destiny but as a Starborn it gives Harry a partial shield to such things. The Spear turns this shield into a sword, allowing him to not only protect himself, but reshape the destinies of others. This is why Alfred was happy to suggest he take the Spear in facing Ethnui nut perplexed about the placard.he saw no use in the latter.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on December 16, 2022, 10:25:32 PM --- ... I suspect the Spear is especially potent in Harry’s hands as a Starborn, Harry has been unusually resistant to prophecy, entropy curses and death curses, all things designed to shape destiny but as a Starborn it gives Harry a partial shield to such things ...
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That's an interesting theory, that being a Starborn gives him an extra "leg up" on the whole "destiny" schtick; do we have direct canon or WoJ on this point?
I don't think "death curses" are evidence, here: I think Harry just found a loophole in Cassius' curse (and he had to become a ghost to do it! So, it was a pretty-extreme reach, to get to that loophole; Odin himself suggests it's a pretty-rare occurence ... )
Also, I think the only "entropy curses" Harry dealt with were Papa Raith's, which seem to be Outsider-powered (so a Starborn already has the wherewithal to deal with those, without invoking further "destiny" powers).
The "Barabbus Curse" (an inescapable death, which is a pretty damned "destiny" sorta thing!) from Death Masks was Denarian, not Outsider ... but it was I think Shiro who broke that, not Dresden (and we know that the KotC's have their own freakin' "Destiny" powers!).
Early on, Marcone saves Harry from Capiorcorpus & the ghoul; Gard warns Marcone that it was Harry's "destiny" to die there; again, not Dresden's doing (I actually suspect Uriel's hand, here).
Mira:
--- Quote ---I don't think "death curses" are evidence, here: I think Harry just found a loophole in Cassius' curse (and he had to become a ghost to do it! So, it was a pretty-extreme reach, to get to that loophole; Odin himself suggests it's a pretty-rare occurence ... )
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I don't think Harry found a loophole so much as it wasn't the brightest curse in the matchbox. Yeah, it sounds horrible, "die alone.." But for starters, Harry was only mostly dead, he never was all dead. Second, he was still conscious when he hit the water into Mab's arms, so if he went all dead, he wasn't alone. Lastly and most importantly, when Malcolm told him "everyone goes through that door alone," it took all the sting and fear out of the curse. So Harry still might very well die alone, but it is more of a shrug of shoulders than a curse or fear, as Malcolm told him, he might die alone but then go into the arms of those who love him who have passed on before him.
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: g33k on December 17, 2022, 01:07:18 AM ---That's an interesting theory, that being a Starborn gives him an extra "leg up" on the whole "destiny" schtick; do we have direct canon or WoJ on this point?
I don't think "death curses" are evidence, here: I think Harry just found a loophole in Cassius' curse (and he had to become a ghost to do it! So, it was a pretty-extreme reach, to get to that loophole; Odin himself suggests it's a pretty-rare occurence ... )
Also, I think the only "entropy curses" Harry dealt with were Papa Raith's, which seem to be Outsider-powered (so a Starborn already has the wherewithal to deal with those, without invoking further "destiny" powers).
The "Barabbus Curse" (an inescapable death, which is a pretty damned "destiny" sorta thing!) from Death Masks was Denarian, not Outsider ... but it was I think Shiro who broke that, not Dresden (and we know that the KotC's have their own freakin' "Destiny" powers!).
Early on, Marcone saves Harry from Capiorcorpus & the ghoul; Gard warns Marcone that it was Harry's "destiny" to die there; again, not Dresden's doing (I actually suspect Uriel's hand, here).
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We have WOJ that a decision of Harry in GP caused the universe split which is to be used in MM. not every person can make a decision which causes universes to divide. Harry has had so much aimed at him which should be inescapable, yet Harry escapes, deflects or diminishes the peril. Same with the Bloodline Curse in Changes, it got turned around on the Red Court. Harry is like the Spear, his destiny is not fixed and the Spear which does the same for non-Starborn amplifies this in Harry.
Listen or Drakul must not get The Spear. It is Harry’s ultimate advantage over another Starborn.
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