The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
So Fitz is...
Mira:
--- Quote ---That likely means an powerful entity with a wolf fetish and a grudge against mankind. My bet is that it was the Morrigan an Irish Warrior Wolf Goddess who laid the curse and it should be noted McFinn “turned” whilst serving in Vietnam. It may be a component of the curse that it’s bearers are drawn to war becoming the ultimate berserker on the battlefield. Any child of McFinn may find himself drawn to war and the military.
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Or Finn was drafted like so many others who fought and died in that war. Finn says he was the only survivor of his company, were his fellow soldiers killed in battle, or did he kill them because he couldn't manage his magic circle? You gotta wonder about that, when Harry finds him in the woods he is trying to put together, but failing, a circle to contain himself with the material at hand. He needed Kim because, he, himself, didn't have the skills to do it. However we also don't know who put the sabotaged circle in place before Kim entered the scene. So what did he do in the fricking jungle during the war? Or during basic? He would have been on base presumedly for at least one full moon cycle. Or did the Army know all about him, had a circle made to contain him when they needed to, and released him to kill the enemy when they needed to? Was Finn used as a weapon like Agent Orange, and ultimately killed our own soldiers as well as the enemy?
Conspiracy Theorist:
In the Jungle he likely aimed himself at the “enemy” and let go. The curse was designed to create an unstoppable weapon. On base my guess is he volunteered to to go out on patrol on full moon nights (the time no one would have wanted to go out at night) the stockade wouldn’t contain him. If he couldn’t pull night duty on patrol he would have gone AWOL. If on leave he would have gone into the jungle.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on November 19, 2022, 04:51:33 PM ---In the Jungle he likely aimed himself at the “enemy” and let go. The curse was designed to create an unstoppable weapon. On base my guess is he volunteered to to go out on patrol on full moon nights (the time no one would have wanted to go out at night) the stockade wouldn’t contain him. If he couldn’t pull night duty on patrol he would have gone AWOL. If on leave he would have gone into the jungle.
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Perhaps, but when in full Loop mode could Finn tell the difference between friend and foe? I really doubt it, that is how the rest of his platoon was killed I am guessing, he did it.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 19, 2022, 11:51:38 AM --- ... I doubt that Chauncy is a congenital liar ...
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He's a demon. "Lying" (like violence) is his natural state of being.
--- Quote from: Mira on November 19, 2022, 11:51:38 AM --- ... If he was not a true source of information, there would be no temptation to call him up by mortals putting their souls at risk ...
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He is *capable* of providing true information.
But he does so tactically, strategically.
Where possible (and strategically advantageous) he misleads (recalling that overt lies from Down Under(*) are one of the things that can trigger extra Response from Up Above).
Chauncy's overarching lie is implicit: that he can be trusted, that he is a reliable informant, that the risk is worth the gain.
Note that by making an issue out of "was it or wasn't it St. Patrick," Chauncy entirely avoids addressing who actually Cursed the MacFinn. I suspect the real information is actually important (since Chauncy took some care to obscure it).
You recall: by the end of Chauncy's scene, Dresden was shaken, and realized: he had been falling for just this lie.
Dresden never summons Chauncy again.
(*) Apologies to all antipodeans, who (I presume) are not all lying demons
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on November 19, 2022, 06:41:33 PM ---He's a demon. "Lying" (like violence) is his natural state of being.
He is *capable* of providing true information.
But he does so tactically, strategically.
Where possible (and strategically advantageous) he misleads (recalling that overt lies from Down Under(*) are one of the things that can trigger extra Response from Up Above).
Chauncy's overarching lie is implicit: that he can be trusted, that he is a reliable informant, that the risk is worth the gain.
Note that by making an issue out of "was it or wasn't it St. Patrick," Chauncy entirely avoids addressing who actually Cursed the MacFinn. I suspect the real information is actually important (since Chauncy took some care to obscure it).
You recall: by the end of Chauncy's scene, Dresden was shaken, and realized: he had been falling for just this lie.
Dresden never summons Chauncy again.
(*) Apologies to all antipodeans, who (I presume) are not all lying demons
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No more than the Fae, who cannot lie but are misleading at the same time.
As for Harry's reaction, it had nothing to do with what Chauncy told him about Finn. It had all to
do about the information Chauncy volunteered about his mother and father. His resolve not to use Chauncy again had everything to do with the fact that Harry had gone as far as he dared. Anymore about his name and Chauncy would have gained power over him. It also put him in serious danger with the White Council for calling up a demon in the first place.
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