The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
So Fitz is...
Mira:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on November 24, 2022, 09:16:01 AM ---I don't think the circles are BANNED as such, Harry just won't TEACH Kim because the ones she wanted are designed for things she should not go near. It's like teaching your kid to drive the first time - you do not give your son the keys to a 500 hp Corvette. It's not ILLEGAL to do so, but it is not SMART. Mom's Volvo station wagon is a better choice. It's like making nitroglycerine and mixing it with DE to make dynamite paste. The end product is pretty stable, but you better know what you are doing along the way, nitro is VERY touchy stuff. In this case, it's not the circle that is an issue - it's what's inside.
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I have to go back and reread, but the circle she wanted to build, and the type of monsters and demons it was designed to contain, it was illegal or drew some interesting assumptions from the Wardens. In other words if you needed to build that kind of circle to call up whatever or contain whatever, you were up to no good.. Remember his buddy Morgan? At that point in time Harry didn't know he was really looking out for his welfare.
morriswalters:
The books tell you how summoning got out to the general public. A plan by the White Council to weaken the process by having everyone trying to do it.(Maybe White Knight or possibly earlier, I forget)
Harry would have learned his lessons from Bob about demons and summoning. Also Bock's Books.
In the end all roads lead to Nemesis in turns of bad things happening. He manipulates groups to achieve chaos.
MacFinn's circle could have been no older then Chicago unless it was in some way portable. That could mean the wizard who built it is still around and possibly corrupted by Nemesis. You can infer this because MacFinn wouldn't have wanted to share knowledge of what he was. Since he wasn't immortal it had to be done by a modern Wizard.
Mira:
--- Quote ---MacFinn's circle could have been no older then Chicago unless it was in some way portable. That could mean the wizard who built it is still around and possibly corrupted by Nemesis. You can infer this because MacFinn wouldn't have wanted to share knowledge of what he was. Since he wasn't immortal it had to be done by a modern Wizard.
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What I'd like to know is how Kim managed to sell him on the idea that she was even remotely qualified to help him? Good point, the circle isn't portable, and since it wasn't in a hundred year old building, who set it up to begin with and why? And how did Finn learn about it?
vincentric:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on November 24, 2022, 12:34:58 AM ---Well someone is out there, handing out summoning rituals, magic books and wolf- skin belts probably just for the hell of it to sow discord. Almost as if they were a Demi- God of discord resident in Chicago. This may be Nameless/Cowls weakness, he can’t help sowing discord even if it isn’t part of a larger scheme, like undermining the Winter Court with the Nemesis Athame, or seeking out The Word to remove the qualifier from god, or setting the White Court and White Council at each other’s throats. How many of the events in Chicago that have impinged upon Harry are due to Nameless indirectly?
I have suggested he pushed Maeve in Summer Knight towards her course of action, did he hook Marcone up with the Church Mice and then alert the Denarians just for fun? Was he behind the dogknapping of the puppies? The Circle/Black seem to have been behind it in Zoo Day. Before Changes Nameless/Cowl may have been responsible to some degree for most of Harry’s Files, some by design, some just for gun.
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Nameless is an interesting character but since he didn't appear in the books prior to The Law, by WOJ he can't be Cowl. As for the major things in your first paragraph, Nemesis/Justine pretty much claims credit for these when she thinks she has Harry beaten on the boat. If Nameless had a hand in pushing Maeve, Mab would have had a "serious discussion" with him and he'd likely still be in an exit interview like Slate's. I do agree that he could have hooked Marcone up with the Church Mice but telling Nic would be against the interests of his client, so not that part. Anybody could have been behind the puppies so he's as good a guess there as any.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Ah! But he did but remained nameless.
I think we first see him as an unnamed dancer in Maeves Court, and Maeve refers to someone telling her about him but cuts herself off.
Think about it, he is Winter, based in Chicago and Maeves Court was full of discord so of course he was there, he is just keeping a low profile, and as the court was underground, that profile was positively subterranean.
I thinks Jim has been playing a game with us over Cowl/Nameless and has pegged him as Harry’s Archenemy all along. I think he will either get Cowl to monologue the whole thing, or Harry will assess all his memories and finally make the deduction. Listen doubtlessly works ultimately for Cowl, not the Fomor or the Titan.
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