The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
What the heck was Justin *UP* to??!?
g33k:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 17, 2022, 10:12:13 PM ---Assuming that Malcolm was a mortal how did Lea kill him? He wasn't linked to either Court. Doesn't that run afoul of Winter Law? Isn't that the purpose of the Winter Knight. Can Lea just go out and murder at will? Maybe I misunderstand what Winter Law means.
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I think it's only the Queens who cannot kill.
Many, MANY fae are deadly. Redcaps, rawbones... Genny Greenteeth & other water-nymph / water-hags drown victims; etc etc etc etc.
And it's easy enough to "arrange" for them to die. We saw Maeve -- in front of a huge Winter Court -- induce a fatal heart-attack. If it had been a violation of Winter Law, I expect most of the faerie courtiers would have known it!
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 17, 2022, 10:12:13 PM --- If Lea had sold Harry why was she still hanging around. She watched over Harry at the orphanage. And she was close enough that when Harry ran she was where she could offer him help.
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The timeline of my WAG is:
- Lea "kills" Malcolm (or arranges it)
- Lea veils Harry from all tracking / scrying, and gets him into the State system
- Lea watches over him for years
- when "the time is right" (i.e. Harry makes that huge magic-boosted jump at school), Lea strikes a "bargain" with Justin, "selling" Harry to him; I assume -- Fae bargaining being what it is -- that she doesn't actually "give up" her FaerieGodmother "rights" & responsibilities; she continues to watch over Harry (but basically approves of Justin's harsh training; in fact, thinks he's too gentle).
All of this largely (or so I WAG) at the behest/instigation of Mab, who is building herself a suitably-strong Starborn-Wizard candidate Winter Knight, for the upcoming apocalyptic battles.
morriswalters:
The guy in the WW2 cantina had cut a deal with Maeve. He chose poorly.
We're close to being in sync, with the primary difference being that I think she shielded Margaret until Harry was born and then she let the curse take her.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 17, 2022, 10:12:13 PM ---Assuming that Malcolm was a mortal how did Lea kill him? He wasn't linked to either Court. Doesn't that run afoul of Winter Law? Isn't that the purpose of the Winter Knight. Can Lea just go out and murder at will? Maybe I misunderstand what Winter Law means.
If Lea had sold Harry why was she still hanging around. She watched over Harry at the orphanage. And she was close enough that when Harry ran she was where she could offer him help.
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Agreed, Fae cannot kill mortals, plus Harry wasn't a first born, unless the bargain was for Malcolm's first born.
--- Quote ---If Justin was "in on" Malcolm's death, he was very-likely equally "in on" the hiding-Harry action, knew the brat was LeFay's get (and via Salic Law, a likely wizard); and maybe even knew of her Kwisatz Haderach plans.
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Yes to all of the above. I seriously doubt that Justin just happened to want to adopt a couple of future apprentices and came across Harry and Elaine by accident. Oh and isn't it a coincidence that one or both of them is a star child? There is no such thing as coincidence, if Justin didn't plan it all, who he worked for did. Locating young Harry and Elaine was prearranged, their futures were prearranged. Justin got into trouble when he thought he could use Elaine and Harry for himself, and underestimating sixteen year old Harry.
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 18, 2022, 03:52:25 AM ---
Agreed, Fae cannot kill mortals, plus Harry wasn't a first born, unless the bargain was for Malcolm's first born.
Yes to all of the above. I seriously doubt that Justin just happened to want to adopt a couple of future apprentices and came across Harry and Elaine by accident. Oh and isn't it a coincidence that one or both of them is a star child? There is no such thing as coincidence, if Justin didn't plan it all, who he worked for did. Locating young Harry and Elaine was prearranged, their futures were prearranged. Justin got into trouble when he thought he could use Elaine and Harry for himself, and underestimating sixteen year old Harry.
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The Leansidhe can and does kill mortals as a by product of her “bargain” inspiration in return for an early death. The Mortal accepts this bargain and Lea doesn’t compromise Winter Law, indeed she is working directly with it. Malcom could only be killed by Lea if he had agreed to Lea’s bargain. That would mean though Harry has a spirit of intellect sibling we don’t know about. I don’t necessarily buy that although it fits in with Jim’s WOJ about Margaret’s bargain with Lea, if it was an adjunct of that. A Lea/Malcolm spirit of intellect would be very interesting. Definitely NOT Bob unless time travel is involved (Lea is more powerful than Kringle so not impossible) we have been told by Jim in a WOJ that we have met Bob’s father and we have met Malcolm at least in spirit form….Hmmm Jim would laugh himself sick because we presume Bob’s father is someone living in the Files rather than the spirit of someone we have seen.
Mira:
--- Quote ---The Leansidhe can and does kill mortals as a by product of her “bargain” inspiration in return for an early death. The Mortal accepts this bargain and Lea doesn’t compromise Winter Law, indeed she is working directly with it.
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That sounds more like suicide than murder... It's called "free will" even if it comes from a sick mind. However that isn't the same thing as Lea going around killing mortals who don't want to die.
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