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A Thought About The Items From Hades

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Conspiracy Theorist:

--- Quote from: seanham on July 10, 2022, 12:40:39 AM ---I have had the same thought. I wonder if Harry used so much Soul Fire when creating his ice wall to slow down the Jotuns that he didn't want to risk using anymore? Or after losing Murphy he couldn't access it temporarily. Remember Bob said that the soul grows back with laughter and joy (or something like that), maybe Harry didn't have any joy in him when facing Ethniue so he couldn't use it? Like when Harry couldn't create the pocket chief of sunshine in SK because of what happened to Susan.

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Because the binding was the only shot in his arsenal which would work, and that is a matter of will, not power.

Basil:

--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on July 10, 2022, 03:55:39 AM ---33 BC. Crucified in 1AD. Cycle fits perfectly. Bit out of date for modern thinking, but it's been bandied.

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No you've got it backwards.  Christ was born in the later years of Augustus and crucified during reign of Tiberius.  There are some debates amongst scholars and theologians as to the precise year of his birth and death, but not enough to change the Star Born timing problem here. 

Here's wikipedia (yes, I know): 


--- Quote ---The date of birth for Jesus of Nazareth is not stated in the gospels or in any secular text, but a majority of scholars assume a date between 6 BC and 4 BC.[15] The historical evidence is too ambiguous to allow a definitive date to be determined,[16] but the date has been estimated through known historical events mentioned in the Gospels of Matthew chapter 2 and Luke chapter 2[17] or by working backwards from the estimated start of the ministry of Jesus.[18][19]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativity_of_Jesus


--- Quote ---The crucifixion of Jesus occurred in 1st-century Judea, most likely in either AD 30 or AD 33. Jesus' crucifixion is described in the four canonical gospels, referred to in the New Testament epistles, attested to by other ancient sources, and is considered an established historical event by many,[1] although there is no consensus among historians on the exact details. There were 4 people present at the scene. These were Saint Peter, Mary Magdalene, Mary, mother of Jesus and Mary, wife of Clopas.[2][3][4]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_of_Jesus

BrainFireBob:

--- Quote from: Basil on July 10, 2022, 04:56:54 PM ---No you've got it backwards.  Christ was born in the later years of Augustus and crucified during reign of Tiberius.  There are some debates amongst scholars and theologians as to the precise year of his birth and death, but not enough to change the Star Born timing problem here. 

Here's wikipedia (yes, I know): 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativity_of_Jesus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_of_Jesus

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You didn't hear what I was saying.

If the Crucifixtion was 1AD, as some mildly religious people think, Christ is born in 33BC and the cycle fits. It's Butcher's story, there's room for him to say "People think X when it's Y"

Conspiracy Theorist:
There are people on this forum who think Christ was one third of a 30lb Grey Tomcat, so you argument pales in comparison.

Arjan:
I think the items are older than Christianity and just got extra meaning attached.

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