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Why is Marcone such a heavy magical hitter?

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Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Mira on December 07, 2020, 09:20:11 PM ---Does it, is putting up a threshold in your house doing magic?  Apparently it stops a lot of supernatural stuff from passing through if there a strong sense of "family" established living there. The people who live there have no magical powers, yet their living there has a magical effect.

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We can't rely on the circle=threshold analogy. We know where a circle comes from. Wizards in the DF don't know where a threshold comes from. A circle is power+will. That's what Harry teaches Butters. It's Butters' will plus his blood. A threshold might be will made manifest. If it was it would be the same as a threshold, but we don't know.

A magic circle is definitely magic.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on December 08, 2020, 04:42:52 PM ---We can't rely on the circle=threshold analogy. We know where a circle comes from. Wizards in the DF don't know where a threshold comes from. A circle is power+will. That's what Harry teaches Butters. It's Butters' will plus his blood. A threshold might be will made manifest. If it was it would be the same as a threshold, but we don't know.

A magic circle is definitely magic.

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Yet Harry says it isn't.  Or perhaps he meant that it is so basic that anyone can do it.


--- Quote ---"Harry.  I don't know magic."
"Anyone can do this
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morriswalters:
Blood has power, all blood. In blood rites they bleed Shiro to power the curse.  Jim has a thing for blood. Therefore he uses it a lot. But if anybody can do magic then magic isn't special anymore.  So Butters ability to empower a magic circle is consistent with that without him needing to be able to do serious magic.

Fcrate:
Let me just say that this is the only part of the plot that I completely hated. Well that and Marcone manifesting a Banner, a few chapters after Mab told Harry that this banner is an aspect of being a winter knight that only a few have had the strength to manifest. What... If you have enough people willing to follow you into battle you immediately gain intellectus over them? Doesn't make sense. Especially since most of Marcone's followers are hired muscle, not believers in a cause.
A minor talent after some training by a Fallen is more in line with what we've seen so far from the series. We've seen in Even Hand that Marcone has had sufficient counter measures against the eventual attack by Harry. Some wards by Gard and special ammunition, and according to the time line, this is after he's had access to the coin.  And now he's a magical heavy hitter with nigh immortality as well? Not to mention that even the Knights of the cross will fall by the hundreds to him if they ever faced him, as they're obliged to give him a chance to repent.
On a slight tangent, this makes Hendricks' sacrifice seem pointless, had he the relevant information, he'd still be alive by now.

Arjan:
I do not think he is the magical heavy hitter.

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