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Why is Marcone such a heavy magical hitter?

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Dina:
@Fcrate, a couple of things about that.
I cannot vouch for what a corrupted Marcone could become in the future, but for now, he wouldn't try to do the "repent" thing with the Knights. He is too...honest for that. At least, for now. And in the battle he was on the same side of them, so for now, they have no reason to come directly after him.
Hendricks, yes, I thought the same. Still, Marcone can still die. He is not Nicodemus. Only, it is more difficult to kill him now that he has the coin.
And I did not like the banner thing either, but I don't think is all about hired muscle. I think the people following Marcone Banner were like Harry's, common people that decided they rather fight for their loved ones instead of run.
And I want to know if Marcone's banner was bigger than Harry or not.

KurtinStGeorge:
Before I respond to the quotes below, I just want to say that I'm not getting into the whole, "Why is Marcone such a heavy magical hitter?" argument and its corollary, "Is Jim breaking his own rules?  (Though as I read that scene I did find it somewhat puzzling and maybe even somewhat annoying.)  I'm going to want to see Jim answer a question about this during a future interview or Reddit AMA.  And then I'm going to listen very carefully to his answer, because there are times when Jim can give really clear reasons for something and other times when his answers can be on the fuzzy side.  Now, one reason for Jim to give a fuzzy reply is that he doesn't want to give too much away, especially something that may become important further into the story.  However, in this case, should Jim give a fuzzy answer then I would lean towards the possibility that he is fudging his own rules with Marcone.  That's just something to consider should a future interviewer or Reddit questioner put this question to Jim.


--- Quote from: Dina on December 09, 2020, 10:39:08 PM ---@Fcrate, a couple of things about that.
I cannot vouch for what a corrupted Marcone could become in the future, but for now, he wouldn't try to do the "repent" thing with the Knights. He is too...honest for that. At least, for now. And in the battle he was on the same side of them, so for now, they have no reason to come directly after him.

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My feelings exactly.

 

--- Quote from: Dina on December 09, 2020, 10:39:08 PM ---Hendricks, yes, I thought the same.

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I hate to say this, but my guess is Mr. Hendricks was killed off as a writing convenience rather than as a logical part of the story; and I don't really like that, because (on the second reading) it felt somewhat artificial to me.  The writing convenience is pretty simple.  Marcone doesn't need a bodyguard any longer.  In fact, other than as a liaison to Vadderung / Odin, Marcone doesn't need Ms. Gard around either. 

Here's one example of Hendricks' death that would have been a logical part of the story.  Mr. Hendricks reacts badly when he finds out his boss is working with a fallen angel.  (I'm assuming he didn't know.  And yes, we all know that Hendricks was already working with a mass murderer, but even violent criminals can be believers and regular church goers.)  When Mr. Hendricks finds out and objects to Marcone's new business partner, Marcone kills him in reply; showing us that Thorned Namshiel is now in the driver's seat and making the major decisions.  However, that would be more feasible in a series of novels called "The Rise and Fall of Gentleman John Marcone," but John Marcone is not the focus of the story.  So, it's much easier for Jim to strip down Marcone and make him a direct threat in his own right, rather than have him rely on hired muscle and Ms. Gard's potentially wonky magical weapons.   

Dina:
I am 100% sure that Namshiel is not in the driver's seat for now. Marcone wouldn't kill Hendricks. But it is true that the scene felt a little artificial, with Marcone not even blinking. But...apparently there is a WoJ that we should keep reading that he said when talking about Murph's death. Perhaps there is something planned on Hendricks too.
And yes, I know I am reiterative, but in Monsters, it is weird that Grey talks about the Eihenjaren bodyguard, no mention of Hendricks. Perhaps there is some foreshadowing or something else.

I know it has been discussed how catholic Murphy can be an eihenjar. Was Hendricks a catholic too? I think so. Perhaps they both have an special treatment.

TheCuriousFan:

--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on December 10, 2020, 08:04:07 AM ---I hate to say this, but my guess is Mr. Hendricks was killed off as a writing convenience rather than as a logical part of the story; and I don't really like that, because (on the second reading) it felt somewhat artificial to me.  The writing convenience is pretty simple.  Marcone doesn't need a bodyguard any longer.  In fact, other than as a liaison to Vadderung / Odin, Marcone doesn't need Ms. Gard around either. 

Here's one example of Hendricks' death that would have been a logical part of the story.  Mr. Hendricks reacts badly when he finds out his boss is working with a fallen angel.  (I'm assuming he didn't know.  And yes, we all know that Hendricks was already working with a mass murderer, but even violent criminals can be believers and regular church goers.)  When Mr. Hendricks finds out and objects to Marcone's new business partner, Marcone kills him in reply; showing us that Thorned Namshiel is now in the driver's seat and making the major decisions.  However, that would be more feasible in a series of novels called "The Rise and Fall of Gentleman John Marcone," but John Marcone is not the focus of the story.  So, it's much easier for Jim to strip down Marcone and make him a direct threat in his own right, rather than have him rely on hired muscle and Ms. Gard's potentially wonky magical weapons.   

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My guess on why Hendricks died is to match Murphy dying.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Dina on December 10, 2020, 08:15:17 AM ---I am 100% sure that Namshiel is not in the driver's seat for now.

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Harry would have detected it if Marcone was just a sock puppet but Marcone leaning on Namshiel’s magic is entirely possible.


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 Marcone wouldn't kill Hendricks. But it is true that the scene felt a little artificial, with Marcone not even blinking. But...apparently there is a WoJ that we should keep reading that he said when talking about Murph's death. Perhaps there is something planned on Hendricks too.
And yes, I know I am reiterative, but in Monsters, it is weird that Grey talks about the Eihenjaren bodyguard, no mention of Hendricks. Perhaps there is some foreshadowing or something else.

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For Grey Hendricks was just a normal human and Marcone has many of them.

--- Quote ---I know it has been discussed how catholic Murphy can be an eihenjar. Was Hendricks a catholic too? I think so. Perhaps they both have an special treatment.

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