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Why is Marcone such a heavy magical hitter?
Hankthemoose:
Marcone was a vanilla mortal before he picked up Namshiel. My understanding was that the amount of power someone could access was a matter of genetics. If Marcone had the kind of inborn talent that Harry had, it should have manifested on its own, before Namshiel. Marcone would have been summoning monsters, ripping holes in reality, or doing other mad sorcerer stuff on accident his entire life.
I think the easiest excuse is that Namshiel somehow "gave" Marcone a big magical talent, but there's a problem with that. All of the fallen angels are ancient and know basically everything there is to know—presumably also about magic. So then, all of the Knights of the Blackened Denarius should be slinging mad spells like pros, especially the smarter carriers. Instead, you've got guys like snake boy the one-hit wonder and Tessa's mob of oddly transformed goons.
So... what gives? Any ideas?
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: Hankthemoose on December 03, 2020, 12:20:38 PM ---Marcone was a vanilla mortal before he picked up Namshiel. My understanding was that the amount of power someone could access was a matter of genetics. If Marcone had the kind of inborn talent that Harry had, it should have manifested on its own, before Namshiel. Marcone would have been summoning monsters, ripping holes in reality, or doing other mad sorcerer stuff on accident his entire life.
I think the easiest excuse is that Namshiel somehow "gave" Marcone a big magical talent, but there's a problem with that. All of the fallen angels are ancient and know basically everything there is to know—presumably also about magic. So then, all of the Knights of the Blackened Denarius should be slinging mad spells like pros, especially the smarter carriers. Instead, you've got guys like snake boy the one-hit wonder and Tessa's mob of oddly transformed goons.
So... what gives? Any ideas?
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No clue, Namshiel is the magic nerd of the denarians but efficiency has limits and any way of boosting your power from an outside source like Sells seems like it should be standard for any denarian that cares about using magic.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on December 03, 2020, 01:18:35 PM ---No clue, Namshiel is the magic nerd of the denarians but efficiency has limits and any way of boosting your power from an outside source like Sells seems like it should be standard for any denarian that cares about using magic.
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The host must have some talent and the denarian must be interested in offering the education and training. Ursiel just want to hit people and why invest the effort if you can tempt the host with some stupid battle form?
I think most of the hosts don’t get even a small fraction of what they could get. The purpose of the denarian is not to make the host stronger, that is a side effect. It is to corrupt the host and damn him.
Namshiel likes magic so that is his way in.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on December 03, 2020, 02:35:12 PM ---The host must have some talent and the denarian must be interested in offering the education and training. Ursiel just want to hit people and why invest the effort if you can tempt the host with some stupid battle form?
I think most of the hosts don’t get even a small fraction of what they could get. The purpose of the denarian is not to make the host stronger, that is a side effect. It is to corrupt the host and damn him.
Namshiel likes magic so that is his way in.
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They use the host to achieve their goals whatever they may be. Even Nic who thinks he has a great partnership with Andriel most likely was brainwashed at some point. Yes, he had goals too, which made him vulnerable to taking up the coin, but he very mistaken if he really thinks he is totally calling the shots. I think he realized that when Deidre died.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on December 03, 2020, 03:43:13 PM ---They use the host to achieve their goals whatever they may be. Even Nic who thinks he has a great partnership with Andriel most likely was brainwashed at some point. Yes, he had goals too, which made him vulnerable to taking up the coin, but he very mistaken if he really thinks he is totally calling the shots. I think he realized that when Deidre died.
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I do not think he realises it even now or if he did that voice was quickly silenced. The whole attack on Michaels house had more than one function. Part of it was to put all the blame for everything outside and let Nicodemus and his wife work together.
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