The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Why is Marcone such a heavy magical hitter?
morriswalters:
--- Quote ---What was the only thing that Vadderung gave up for free?
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--- Quote ---I looked down at my hands. “What’s it going to cost me to find out?”
“Chichén Itzá,” Vadderung said.
I jerked my head up in surprise. I stared at the man for a moment. “I . . .”
“Don’t understand?” Vadderung asked. “It isn’t complicated. I’m on your side, boy.”
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Arjan:
Vadderung can give whatever he likes to give, he is not fae.
Traditionally he will help heroes to greatness and arrange their killing in battle so they can go to Valhalla.
Mira:
--- Quote ---At first, you'd think this would answer my question, but it doesn't. It's Butter's blood that powers the circle. A practitioner can power the circle with the power of his mind. In the strictest sense, Butters is doing magic, but I don't think that qualifies him as a practitioner.
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Harry tells Butters anyone can do it, a circle keeps out magic. It isn't really doing magic, because Butters argues that he doesn't know magic, and Harry tells him it really isn't. Maybe the best way to think of it is it is a threshold, only in the round and protects the one standing inside it. It only keeps out magic though, physical things can still cross it according to Harry, so it was the most basic of circles.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Mira on December 07, 2020, 07:52:06 PM ---Harry tells Butters anyone can do it, a circle keeps out magic. It isn't really doing magic, because Butters argues that he doesn't know magic, and Harry tells him it really isn't. Maybe the best way to think of it is it is a threshold, only in the round and protects the one standing inside it. It only keeps out magic though, physical things can still cross it according to Harry, so it was the most basic of circles.
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Yeah, while setting up a magic circle that way is obviously "doing magic," it's also not doing magic in the sense of having any innate magical abilities. Jim hasn't really provided a vocabulary to distinguish different forms of magic, but I think the there are clearly different kinds. For example, the Alphas are doing something different from Harry (or even LtW), and Bob is doing yet another thing.
I'd say we could call what Harry, and even small time and focused practitioners, do wizardry. For example Hanna Ascher is doing what Harry does, but only with fire magic. It's implied that there are plenty of smaller practitioners that can do all sorts of stuff, but don't have the power, knowledge, and/or experience to be considered a wizard. Then there are people like the Alphas who can do one thing and can't do anything else. (I think it's stated or implied in the Paranet Papers that learning to be werewolves cut them off from being able to do other kinds of magic. I don't really remember, but my brother says so, and I have no reason to doubt him). Then there are a variety of magical creatures that do supernatural stuff, i.e., magic. But that stuff is pretty clearly not what Harry's doing.
This debate about Denarians is a good example. They are all clearly doing magic, but most of them are also clearly not slinging a good variety of spells like a wizard. Is that because they can't or because they just choose not to?
Mira:
--- Quote ---At first, you'd think this would answer my question, but it doesn't. It's Butter's blood that powers the circle. A practitioner can power the circle with the power of his mind. In the strictest sense, Butters is doing magic, but I don't think that qualifies him as a practitioner.
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Does it, is putting up a threshold in your house doing magic? Apparently it stops a lot of supernatural stuff from passing through if there a strong sense of "family" established living there. The people who live there have no magical powers, yet their living there has a magical effect.
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