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Murphy (BG spoilers) (also some thoughts on the book overall)
Doughnut Despot:
--- Quote from: bigdangmoose on October 15, 2020, 04:42:58 PM ---Problem with that is she's not a Valkyrie, she's Einherjar. There is a difference
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Tiniest Einherjar then. She'd be great in her own POV series continuing her quest against the bad guys.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 15, 2020, 05:35:03 PM ---She never could be because the Valkyrie are Odin's daughters, and she isn't. I think Jim decided to make her a Einherjar as opposed to going to what comes next, does give some of her fans the outside hope that she will return, though I doubt that as long as Harry lives she will leave his memory. Then again if she went the other route, she could appear as a ghost from time to time.
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I do not think they are Odin’s daughters. Jim described them as mortals with benefits. They are just recruited.
Mr. Death:
Heck, Sigrun herself laughs at the very suggestion in Heorot.
--- Quote ---“I thought Valkyries mostly did pickups and deliveries,” I said.
“Choosing the best warriors from among the slain. Taking them off
to Valhalla. Oh, and serving drinks there. Odin’s virgin daughters,
pouring mead for the warriors, partying until Ragnarok.”
Gard threw back her head and laughed. “Virgin daughters.” She
rose, shaking her head, and glanced at her broken arm again.
Then she leaned down and kissed me on the mouth. Her lips were
a sweet, hungry little fire of sensation, and I felt the kiss all the way
to my toes—some places more than others, ahem.
She drew away slowly, her pale blue eyes shining. Then she
winked at me and said, “Don’t believe everything you read,
Dresden.” She turned to go, then paused to glance over her
shoulder. “Though, to be honest, sometimes he does like us to call
him Daddy. I’m Sigrun.”
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Mira:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on October 15, 2020, 06:54:57 PM ---Heck, Sigrun herself laughs at the very suggestion in Heorot.
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She laughs at the idea that they are virgins, but she isn't saying that they aren't his daughters.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 15, 2020, 07:03:56 PM ---She laughs at the idea that they are virgins, but she isn't saying that they aren't his daughters.
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No, she laughs at the whole statement. She does not specify "virgin," she tells Harry that the thing she repeated and highlighted -- "virgin daughters" -- is not true.
There's also the statement that she's a scion of Beowulf himself, not Odin, in the same story -- Harry calls her a "Scion of the Geat" and she all but confirms it.
That's what leads into the bit I quoted. Harry saying, "So you're a daughter of Beowulf? But I thought valkyries were Odin's virgin daughters." and Sigrun laughing at "virgin daughters" and telling Harry the idea that she's Odin's "virgin daughter" is not true.
Or how about in Aftermath, where Gard tries to recruit Murphy as a "security consultant" -- which is to say the exact same position Gard herself has?
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