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Murphy (BG spoilers) (also some thoughts on the book overall)
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 15, 2020, 07:03:56 PM ---She laughs at the idea that they are virgins, but she isn't saying that they aren't his daughters.
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A normal interpretation from that last sentence is that he is not their daddy but he likes being called daddy sometimes.
At the end of bg when Gard warns Harry not to insult Vadderung she describes him as an elemental being. The whole description is not a description of daddy.
magnuskn:
Yeah, I think the "Odin's daughters" is more brought up because some people want to rule out as many possibilities for a return for Murphy as possible. It's pretty clearly a misinformation Harry was operating under.
Also, who says she can't "upgrade" from Einherjar to Valkyrie?
Phygers:
Murphy I think will be back as a Einherjar/Angel thing given all the shit that Jim should have taken into account (Harry when using "sight" looking at her, her being Catholic, the swords reaction to her , the call sign she was given) when giving her the boost and she will be back sooner than BAT more like 2-3 books. Given it would
1. Give Jim a chance to torture his readers and Karrin and Harry at the same time
2. Gard said she can't return until all "memory of her has FADED from those that knew her". using the Websters definition it just means "weakened or diminished " with her being dead it shouldn't be that long for memory of her to blur with the people she knew. Think if Butcher wanted her gone for good he would have used forgotten not faded
3. I see no way with her waking up in Valhalla and being told no you can't leave and just accepting that given she knows what type shit Harry can get himself into with her staging a jailbreak on her own.
4. Murphy is a large support and foundational pillar with a lot of fans that I don't think the series can work long term without I hope Butcher know this or it may cost him some fans.
Mira:
I think if she were a Valkyrie in training, Gard would have said it..
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 15, 2020, 07:51:42 PM ---I think if she were a Valkyrie in training, Gard would have said it..
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Oh she definitely is not a valkyrie now but maybe if she had accepted Gards offer in aftermath.
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