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Murphy (BG spoilers) (also some thoughts on the book overall)

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magnuskn:
So, yeah. Down goes Murphy. I am less than happy, although it was predicted, even by myself. At least she brought down a giant before having to go. I would have liked her to stay at least another book, to give Harry at least a full year of a blissful relationship.

She has not come back as a Valkyrie (yet...), but she was taken to Valhalla to be an Einherjarn (despite being catholic and noticeably so in this book). So, that point of objection to her not coming back as a supernatural being is pretty much kaputt.

I personally don't believe that she is really out of the series yet, since Jim doesn't like to discard characters that easily. IMHO, she'll be back, maybe next book, maybe in a few, as an "exception to the rule" (because fictional rules are made to be broken) and either as a straight Valkyrie or as an Einherjarn.

Otherwise than Murphy dying, the book was overall really good and enjoyable and felt much more as a "full book" than Peace Talks did. I think the only real points of objection I have are that Harry didn't have a private talk with Ivy (he can be forgiven, due to having his hands full with a demi-god, but still, man... you haven't really talked to her for years. At least introduce her to Maggy) and that we didn't get a scene of Langtry talking with Harry and having to deal with Harry being the Winter Knight, the Warden of Demonreach, etc.. The White Council is a bunch of dumbasses and Harry really probably is better off without them. I'm very much looking forward to what comes next.

huangjimmy108:
I doubt Murphy would come back anytime soon. Fictional rules indeed are made to be broken and JB is not known to just scrap a Character like Murphy so easily, but I doubt JB would break a new establish fictional rule so quickly either. So I suspect if Murphy is goint to come back, it requires some time, which is why I mentioned before that if the DF series is long enough or if there is a spin off which take place in future timeline or if there is a time skip in the series, Murphy could come back again.

Another possibility, Harry could meet Murphy in the NN. Murphy can't come back to the mortal world, but there is so many place out there in the NN and there is also other universes. Murphy can't come back here, but she could go somewhere else and Harry could go to that place as well.

forumghost:
Yeah, I don't think Jim would have had Gard specifically say "No, can't be done," if Murphy was coming back as a mainstay. She'll probably make an appearance in MM to torment Harry a bit though, so that should be neat.

Not sure what would be worse for Harry though- finding out that MM!Murphy's life is actually better because she's not so associated with him, or having it be worse because the world's going to crap and she's gone all "hard woman making hard decisions while hard" à la Ghost Story Murph.

Mira:


   Actually I am a bit sorry she was taken to Valhalla, not that she doesn't deserve to go there, but I'd rather she went to work with her father and Uriel.  She had issues with her father, which she laments in Peace Talks and never got to resolve because he took his own life before they were able to.  Then
perhaps Harry could get word via Uriel, as much as he will say anyway, that she is happy doing what she is doing, giving Harry some peace.

No, I don't think Murphy is coming back.  Gard was very clear on that, as in "even the Allfather" cannot over rule that.

Arjan:
You are far too pessimistic. Harry won't stay mortal and after half a decade or so all mortals who knew her are either dead or immortal. That includes Eb and Ramirez.

So Harry visits Odin and they make a deal after the Apocalypse and the whole story ends with a huge living together happy ever after. For a very long time.  ;D

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