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Murphy (BG spoilers) (also some thoughts on the book overall)

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Griffyn612:
Or the rules change for the Apocalypse, and all cards are on the table, including quarantined einherjarn.  Then she's back for the BAT, riding in top save the day on a winged motorcycle or something.

magnuskn:

--- Quote from: huangjimmy108 on October 01, 2020, 12:41:33 PM ---I doubt Murphy would come back anytime soon. Fictional rules indeed are made to be broken and JB is not known to just scrap a Character like Murphy so easily, but I doubt JB would break a new establish fictional rule so quickly either. So I suspect if Murphy is goint to come back, it requires some time, which is why I mentioned before that if the DF series is long enough or if there is a spin off which take place in future timeline or if there is a time skip in the series, Murphy could come back again.

Another possibility, Harry could meet Murphy in the NN. Murphy can't come back to the mortal world, but there is so many place out there in the NN and there is also other universes. Murphy can't come back here, but she could go somewhere else and Harry could go to that place as well.

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Yeah, Harry going to Valhalla to meet Murphy would seem to be a thing he'd do. I think it depends if Jim wants to continue to Murphy / Harry relationship. Methinks he probably wants to maximise Harry's suffering for entertainment purposes, so if there is a continuance by Harry and Murphy being able to meet somehow, it will be a very inconvenient way for them both.

But I think it is pretty clear that if he had wanted her gone, she would have gone to the catholic afterlife, not Odin's realm.


--- Quote from: Mira on October 01, 2020, 01:35:04 PM ---Actually I am a bit sorry she was taken to Valhalla, not that she doesn't deserve to go there, but I'd rather she went to work with her father and Uriel.  She had issues with her father, which she laments in Peace Talks and never got to resolve because he took his own life before they were able to.  Then perhaps Harry could get word via Uriel, as much as he will say anyway, that she is happy doing what she is doing, giving Harry some peace.
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Murphy's dad was in the "in-between" because he couldn't move on. I would think Murphy's first mission there would be to make her dad go on into the true afterlife, afterwards she'd be gone as well.


--- Quote from: Mira on October 01, 2020, 01:35:04 PM ---No, I don't think Murphy is coming back.  Gard was very clear on that, as in "even the Allfather" cannot over rule that.
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Meh. I think that was specifically mentioned to be a rule that will be broken.


--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 02:42:50 PM ---Or the rules change for the Apocalypse, and all cards are on the table, including quarantined einherjarn.  Then she's back for the BAT, riding in top save the day on a winged motorcycle or something.
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I think I'd prefer a winged horse in classical fashion, but otherwise this sounds pretty plausible, too.

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: magnuskn on October 01, 2020, 04:53:14 PM ---I think I'd prefer a winged horse in classical fashion, but otherwise this sounds pretty plausible, too.

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Okay, fine. But the horse has to be named Harley.

BrainFireBob:
Svangal (or was it Svangr?)

Anywhere, let her ride the Jotun and refer to it as "Backup"

Narsham:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 02:42:50 PM ---Or the rules change for the Apocalypse, and all cards are on the table, including quarantined einherjarn.  Then she's back for the BAT, riding in top save the day on a winged motorcycle or something.

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No rules change: the einherjarn are specifically gathered for Ragnarok, so Murphy has to come off the bench when that happens.

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