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Murphy (BG spoilers) (also some thoughts on the book overall)
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Arjan on October 06, 2020, 06:12:31 PM ---I imagine Uriel and Vadderung had lunch and they talked about it and Uriel being Uriel made it dependent on Murphy’s choice. Maybe a similar deal was made with Mab. That thing with the doors was suspicious.
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That makes sense. Given a choice between off the field for good or a chance to come back and fight the good fight in Ragnarok, it's a no-brainer. She's got the same never quit attitude as Harry.
Plus, Harry ate the donut Vadderung offered him in Changes, with consideration about the meaning of accepting food offered by Odin in his 'hall'. He's probably destined for the same afterlife when his time comes.
magnuskn:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 15, 2020, 02:51:43 AM ---Yes, and bringing her back somehow cheapens the character. Tis a pet peeve of mine in books, movies, and television shows, the writers do a really outstanding job making an end for the character. Not always death either, just a good end.. But some idiot decides that was such a poetic end, that we need to make a sequel, bring him or her back to somehow enhance the other characters.. It usually doesn't work, I'm thinking of a character they brought back from the dead, Tasha Yar, then killed her off again poetically in an alternate universe "Yesterday's Enterprise." Then decided that because that was such a success, lets bring her back as her half Romunlan daughter because Tasha Yar really did survive the battle that no one in the current timeline even knows happened, and the Tasha Yar of the current timeline died a needless death years before in a run in with an oily alien...
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Quite the contrary with me. I think killing off a character robs him of all future potential. The better solution is to not kill them off in the first place, but I'd rather have them back then be gone forever. It doesn't always work out in the end, true, but often it does. I'm a comics guy, so I am pretty inured to the argument that "dead means dead", anyway.
Also, I personally still think Jim is not the guy to kill off main characters in the way Murphy did go. There is too much foreshadowing with her training with the Einherjar and the way she interacted with Freydis and just the fact that she got taken away to Valhalla to let her just go. If she was meant to be out of the series, her going to the Catholic afterlife would have been the thing to do.
Doughnut Despot:
Gotta say, I'm looking forward to the Tiniest Valkyrie series Jim ought to be giving us.
bigdangmoose:
--- Quote from: Doughnut Despot on October 15, 2020, 04:01:33 PM ---Gotta say, I'm looking forward to the Tiniest Valkyrie series Jim ought to be giving us.
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Problem with that is she's not a Valkyrie, she's Einherjar. There is a difference
Mira:
--- Quote from: bigdangmoose on October 15, 2020, 04:42:58 PM ---Problem with that is she's not a Valkyrie, she's Einherjar. There is a difference
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She never could be because the Valkyrie are Odin's daughters, and she isn't. I think Jim decided to make her a Einherjar as opposed to going to what comes next, does give some of her fans the outside hope that she will return, though I doubt that as long as Harry lives she will leave his memory. Then again if she went the other route, she could appear as a ghost from time to time.
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