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ClintACK:
Odin looks "kind" because we've seen him be friendly with Harry, who we like, but remember that he's also backing Marcone, and now Lara. And the Erlking is his hunting buddy.

The "kindest" that we've seen him was in Changes, when he just flat out gave Harry the information he needed, rather than demanding payment -- but in retrospect, it looks more like he was using Harry as a cat's paw to set up the death blow of the Red Court. So it wasn't exactly charity.

Odin's on the right side, when it comes to the Outsiders, but heck, so is Nicodemus. Odin's just playing the smarter game of making Harry like him. As he says in Skin Game, it costs him nothing to be polite.

The_Sibelis:
@bacail... see Odin holding the all-father mantle, becoming capable of using his power, losing and eye, ect.
Or if you don't prescribe to that vein, like you pointed out the second half of mythologically Odin, Santa and Merlin are tied by the same thread, so Odin wasn't even Odin to begin with technically, he was Merlin. If you argued it the other way around, I might agree, but Santa is specifically just mantle, those are made to be worn. There's even Woj he has others work for him acting in his role, though it doesn't specify with his mantle, the role itself is shared all the same. Klaus the toymaker is one of his lackey's. You can hold more than one mantle, it's what the mother's do, and part of how Jim works with the Hindu gods, who all hold multiple Mantle's.

Gman:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on July 29, 2020, 12:58:00 PM ---Odin looks "kind" because we've seen him be friendly with Harry, who we like, but remember that he's also backing Marcone, and now Lara. And the Erlking is his hunting buddy.

The "kindest" that we've seen him was in Changes, when he just flat out gave Harry the information he needed, rather than demanding payment -- but in retrospect, it looks more like he was using Harry as a cat's paw to set up the death blow of the Red Court. So it wasn't exactly charity.



Odin's on the right side, when it comes to the Outsiders, but heck, so is Nicodemus. Odin's just playing the smarter game of making Harry like him. As he says in Skin Game, it costs him nothing to be polite.

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Exactly true. Odin sees Harry as a useful tool or ally. They have in the past wanted the same things or similar done. I don't see Odin just helping Harry when the is no benefit to Odin. It would make no sense for Odin to be a jerk to Harry when Harry is getting things done for Odin. Remember, The Erlking is not nice, but was helpful and polite to Harry during the Wild Hunt fighting Outsiders. Their interests aligned.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Gman on July 29, 2020, 06:44:55 PM ---Exactly true. Odin sees Harry as a useful tool or ally. They have in the past wanted the same things or similar done. I don't see Odin just helping Harry when the is no benefit to Odin. It would make no sense for Odin to be a jerk to Harry when Harry is getting things done for Odin. Remember, The Erlking is not nice, but was helpful and polite to Harry during the Wild Hunt fighting Outsiders. Their interests aligned.

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As Vadderung he is not Sidhe and he can support you just because he likes you, that is what gods did. And be fickle about it as well.

But maybe Harry can return the favor? Pagan religion is very much about giving and receiving. Sacrifices must be made. Harry can hang a few people?

vultur:
Yeah, Odin being friendly to Harry doesn't necessarily mean that he is "nice" overall - he hires Valkyries to Lara and Marcone.

And Odin is (among other things) the god of magic and battle fury. He has reason to like Harry, even apart from a Starborn's relevance to his plans...  ;D

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