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KurtinStGeorge:

--- Quote from: Bacail on July 29, 2020, 12:20:13 PM ---I believe that Odin is Odin.  Remember that he also holds the Mantle of Santa Claus.

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And they each have their own persona; their own specific roles to play and the behavior that comes with it at certain times.  Vadderung is Odin's made up persona for the modern age, a mysterious and powerful human owner and CEO of a high tech personal security company.  And remember, that's how Harry first meets him, not as immortal god, but as a human CEO. 

So even though many human CEO's aren't exactly warm and fuzzy human beings, they don't hold a candle to the type of being Odin is described as being.  That's why it's not surprising that Vadderung can seem to Harry and us, like a more or less decent human being.  That was part of the role he was playing with Harry then.  It wasn't the role he was playing when he told Harry to "get out of the way" after their conversation was over in Skin Game or the role he was playing during the Wild Hunt in Cold Days.  Harry probably made a good decision; if not for entirely the right reason, not to speak directly with Odin at the party.  He might have found he was talking to an entirely different being than he was used to conversing with. 

Arjan:
That was because Vadderung asked him not to. He trusted he had his reasons.

Bacail:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on July 29, 2020, 01:13:39 PM ---@bacail... see Odin holding the all-father mantle, becoming capable of using his power, losing and eye, ect.
Or if you don't prescribe to that vein, like you pointed out the second half of mythologically Odin, Santa and Merlin are tied by the same thread, so Odin wasn't even Odin to begin with technically, he was Merlin. If you argued it the other way around, I might agree, but Santa is specifically just mantle, those are made to be worn. There's even Woj he has others work for him acting in his role, though it doesn't specify with his mantle, the role itself is shared all the same. Klaus the toymaker is one of his lackey's. You can hold more than one mantle, it's what the mother's do, and part of how Jim works with the Hindu gods, who all hold multiple Mantle's.

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Except Odin predates Merlin by over 1000 years, and according to Eb, who has Merlin's journals, Odin was a teacher to Merlin. 

The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: Bacail on July 30, 2020, 12:59:15 PM ---Except Odin predates Merlin by over 1000 years, and according to Eb, who has Merlin's journals, Odin was a teacher to Merlin.

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lmfao, no, no he doesn't. He predates the stories your familiar with. Actually look into his history. An sure, that's in the books. But it isn't necessarily accurate.

Bacail:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on July 30, 2020, 01:09:19 PM --- lmfao, no, no he doesn't. He predates the stories your familiar with. Actually look into his history. An sure, that's in the books. But it isn't necessarily accurate.

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There is evidence that Odin worship may have come about in the Bronze Age (3000-1200 BCE) and Merlin was said to live in the middle to late 6th century CE.  Bit of a gap.

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