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Christmas Eve story - Huge question
Arjan:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on January 16, 2020, 02:07:39 AM ---Oh, not you again. You're doing the same thing with my posts here that you're doing on the Souls and Ghosts thread. Here's a suggestion: please read my posts before responding to them. In this case, the example I specifically gave was Mouse being hurt--so he couldn't handle it.
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Hurt so much that he could not communicate with Maggie?
I am doing nothing strange with your posts. I just think you missed a few points, that is all.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Hurt so much that he could not communicate with Maggie?
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So the theory is, Maggie will never agree to receive help from an entity that has proven willing to be helpful, so long as there's someone around to tell her not to? That seems both unlikely and unsustainable.
--- Quote ---I am doing nothing strange with your posts. I just think you missed a few points, that is all.
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It's less an issue here than on the other thread, but you seem to have a habit of responding to my posts in a way that indicates that either you haven't read them, or that you've dismissed what I've said in them out of hand for no good reason that you've explicated.
Silentbrick:
We are veering way off topic here. Does Mother Winter owe Harry a gift? And if Eb falls during Peace Talks, before passing the staff, does it return to Mother Winter? That's how I can see Harry getting it. But I really think based on the laws of three and the fact he has duties and obligations of varying kinds to each Queen, if two of them owe him a gift for Christmas, then Mother Winter must as well. From the description in Changes, Harry could very well of asked Mab "Is it going to try to eat me?" because the Black staff already tried to?
And yes, it'd be great if someone manages to ask Herr Butcher about this at some point, because I'd really like to know.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---We are veering way off topic here. Does Mother Winter owe Harry a gift? And if Eb falls during Peace Talks, before passing the staff, does it return to Mother Winter? That's how I can see Harry getting it. But I really think based on the laws of three and the fact he has duties and obligations of varying kinds to each Queen, if two of them owe him a gift for Christmas, then Mother Winter must as well. From the description in Changes, Harry could very well of asked Mab "Is it going to try to eat me?" because the Black staff already tried to?
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I had a thought. What if each Queen owed a different kind of gift?
Molly's gift was for Harry--his peace of mind. (Yes, it also benefited a lot of other people, but I'm pretty sure neither Molly nor Harry owed them anything.)
Mab's gift was for Harry's dependents--or one specifically: Maggie.
If this is a progression, then Mother Winter might owe Harry a gift for all of Winter--which could explain why she doesn't have to show up at the Carpenters' in order to deliver it.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on January 16, 2020, 04:14:16 AM ---So the theory is, Maggie will never agree to receive help from an entity that has proven willing to be helpful, so long as there's someone around to tell her not to? That seems both unlikely and unsustainable.
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I just think it likely that Maggie got a far better education about what the Sidhe are and why not to take gifts than Harry had when her age. Any communication with mouse would support that.
Also I think that Molly's protection of the Carpenter family would include Maggie which makes it even more unlikely that Mab would interfere on her turf.
--- Quote ---It's less an issue here than on the other thread, but you seem to have a habit of responding to my posts in a way that indicates that either you haven't read them, or that you've dismissed what I've said in them out of hand for no good reason that you've explicated.
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I read them and I gave my reasons for how I interpret the text. That is all. You may disagree but I suggest you stop replying when it is no fun anymore. I will do the same.
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