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Christmas Eve story - Huge question
Silentbrick:
So I reread Christmas Eve, about Mab and Molly giving Harry a gift out of Obligation to a vassal and I suddenly wondered, "If Mab and Molly are obligated to give Harry a gift, isn't Mother Winter also? It doesn't make alot of sense that 2 out of 3 queens of winter are required to give him a gift, especially with the Faerie fascination with 3's. It would seem reasonable that Mother Winter must also do so.
Of course, one wonders if she did in a way. I wonder, does Harry pick up the Blackstaff in Peace Talks?
I searched the forums but didn't see anything on this come up.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Silentbrick on January 02, 2020, 05:41:05 AM ---So I reread Christmas Eve, about Mab and Molly giving Harry a gift out of Obligation to a vassal and I suddenly wondered, "If Mab and Molly are obligated to give Harry a gift, isn't Mother Winter also? It doesn't make alot of sense that 2 out of 3 queens of winter are required to give him a gift, especially with the Faerie fascination with 3's. It would seem reasonable that Mother Winter must also do so.
Of course, one wonders if she did in a way. I wonder, does Harry pick up the Blackstaff in Peace Talks?
I searched the forums but didn't see anything on this come up.
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A cup of her spit might be useful.. ::) It burnt holes through whatever it landed on. She might consider giving him one of her extra set of teeth, the steel ones maybe?
g33k:
If I had to guess, I'd guess that the Mothers don't have "vassals" as such.
The Knights *have*to* obey their Queen; and have a different, but also "subject/vassal" relationship to their Lady (according to Bob, back when he was explaining things to Harry in Summer Knight).
I think the Knights owe... something... to the Mothers. Damned if I can figure out exactly WHAT, though.
And as for giving a "gift"??? *shivers* I'm pretty sure that can't be anything good. The Mothers seem to be anchor and bedrock; if they act, at all, it's because stuff has gotten seriously F'ed Up.
Also, I think the Mothers are older. They predate the Kringle Mantle, so they're probably not subject to those rules.
That said... You may be correct. Maybe she already DID give him something. The Blackstaff, for example, would be a pretty OhShit kind of "gift."
Mira:
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I think the Knights owe... something... to the Mothers. Damned if I can figure out exactly WHAT, though.
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Other than fidelity, I don't think the Knights owe the Mothers anything more..
morriswalters:
I would note that Mab didn't give Harry a gift, she gave Maggie a gift. And Molly's gift was symbolic, rather than tangible. Sarrisa's influence I suppose, still teaching Mab humanity. I suspect that Molly's gift fulfilled an obligation incurred by the Winter Court when things went pear shaped during the Peace Talks. The Mother's don't visit this realm, or at least so we are told.
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By the way they have prettied up the Christmas short story with illustrations and packaged it into a PDF file for download. :)
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