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How was Demonreach filled?
dspringer1:
For me the big question is -- how did they imprison all these critters in the first place. Once they captured a couple, the word would have gotten out.
This implies there is some remote "caging" magic that can be used to capture some godling that is not so stupid as to step on the island.
Gman:
--- Quote from: dspringer1 on April 22, 2019, 06:11:22 PM ---For me the big question is -- how did they imprison all these critters in the first place. Once they captured a couple, the word would have gotten out.
This implies there is some remote "caging" magic that can be used to capture some godling that is not so stupid as to step on the island.
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Word did not get to Shagnasty. It met and fought Harry on Demonreach. It seems lots of powerful beings keep secrets. Information is power. Some know, some don't.
Bacchus:
What if Merlin was just a past generations kemmler who actually won and made a new white council... sorta.
Harry has also mentioned more than once he was probably a real bastard,
hes literally the one who first wrote the rule not to do the kind of stuff kemmler did.
Maybe he had a lot of experience with eating spirits which made him crazy powerful and instead of necromancy his specialty is more enchantments and time travel. seems like a dark hallow would also work against some enemy's army or civilians to some degree, and in the dark ages could have been forgotten
i could see a early wizards quest to gain power from all the powerful creatures around assisted by his mentor Odin and after he gained crazy power from questionable means and after huge spans of time he slowly changes to use his powers for good and is able to modify things a bit to see him in a better light due to him being the mysterious founder of the white council.
not sure if i believe this but it seems to fit better than anything else i can think of
edit: as for creatures being unknowing of demonreach,
Isn't it fact that a large part of the islands magic is mental stuff that's also insanely more complex than anything modern wizards can do?
It has powerful effects on mortals so that over time they decide to forget it exists, which is quite insane for how humans usually act,
also the islands magic is more focused to effect powerful creatures than humans so it stands to reason that those effects wouldn't just effect humans.
something like security through obscurity being a very old concept
Maz:
Its possible, albeit difficult, to summon the beings there.
You'd have to first obtain their true name.
Summoning such creatures is generally dangerous, hence the use of a circle.
Except in this case... the island is a giant circle.
I'm not certain most if any creatures, even Cthulhu like gods, can resist a summons?
So I don't think you'd inherently need to remote capture them... just summon them to the island. However, that doesn't explain why Shagnasty would willingly step foot on it and why more don't know of the island.
dspringer1:
Demonreach has not had a warden for centuries. No warden - no danger to shagnasty. And the island does have that really powerful ley line to draw upon if needed. So long as Shagnasty is confident no warden is around, the island is actually a pretty decent place to stage a big battle.
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