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Angelic intervention in Fool Moon
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---The difference between a lie and a mere mistaken impression or falsehood is in the knowledge or intent. In the example you used, the married woman would be "living a lie" if, for example, she was pretending to love her husband when she knew that her feelings weren't real. Or maybe her spouse was a criminal and she was pretending her spouse was an upstanding citizen. Either way, it is about willful blindness.
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No it isn't. If the woman had believed that her husband was John Smith, a banker, when he was actually Henry James, criminal and married to someone else, then she would be living a lie without any need for willful blindness, because the definition in this case for something being a lie isn't "willful blindness," it is "founded on a mistaken impression."
--- Quote ---If Mab didn't think she was lying, then Mab wasn't lying, she was simply wrong. Telling a lie requires knowledge of the falsity of the statement.
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Not necessarily, according to the definition I found. Seriously, I didn't make it up; it's the definition you get when you google "lie definition."
--- Quote ---Mother Summer tells Harry that it is possible to master the mantle, that in fact, it had been done. And given that, Mab had to know.
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Not necessarily. It could have happened before Mab's time. We already know that she wasn't the first Winter Queen.
morriswalters:
--- Quote ---We already know that she wasn't the first Winter Queen.
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We do?
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---We do?
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Here's the WoJ:
--- Quote ---I was wondering if Mab was the first Winter Queen?
Jim: No. Mab was not the first Mab. Mab was originally Winter Lady, and Lea was her Jenny Greenteeth. She was her sidekick and handmaiden. And so when Mab got promoted Lea did too. So she got to be much more powerful and awesome. But that was a while back. When that happened. And the same thing with Titania. The Winter Queens actually died. The last time things got awful in the wizard world. So things are about to get awful in the wizard world again and they’re a bit nervous. They’re a bit nervous about Dresden. Well, Titania is very nervous about Dresden. Mab is keeping her enemies close.
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morriswalters:
I had forgotten. Thank you. However it doesn't change anything. Cozarkian would have me believe that she is ignorant of the nature of her Knight. That's like owning a gun and not understanding the safety. Rereading the selection where he awakes in the cave reinforces my belief.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---However it doesn't change anything. Cozarkian would have me believe that she is ignorant of the nature of her Knight. That's like owning a gun and not understanding the safety. Rereading the selection where he awakes in the cave reinforces my belief.
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Here's the WoJ:
--- Quote ---Jim: As far as Mab is concerned, she’s telling the truth, because she’s telling the truth from her experience, as she knows it. Dresden, however, is getting an earful of truth on a more cosmic level.
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(Note: this comes from a WoJ that deals with whether or not Mab was lying. However, since it was using "lie" in the sense of definition 1 I posted rather than definition 2, I have excluded that part for clarity.)
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