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Angelic intervention in Fool Moon

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Paviel:
Uriel wouldn't have told Harry that seven-word truth in Fool Moon unless some other angelic being had told him a seven-word lie prior to then, and angelic beings were way out of Harry's league as of Fool Moon.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Paviel on April 27, 2019, 11:47:51 PM ---... angelic beings were way out of Harry's league as of Fool Moon.
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Harry was a Starborn wizard.  He may not have achieved great power yet, but he was far ahead of the curve for most wizards his age.  And the Angel-caliber entities will know he's Starborn, and will see his early power pointing to his upcoming puissance.

And we KNOW they play long-term and often subtle strategies...

g33k:
Faeries do lie.
They lie automatically, reflexively.
They lie as readily as they breathe, and with far more pleasure.

They  just don't (knowingly) utter any literal falsehoods.

But they will present a suite of facts with implications designed to ensnare the attention and the emotions of the listener; imply risks that have no bearing and/or rewards that are not available (or at least, vanishingly-small chances of those risks/rewards); make the listener ACT on the hopes and fears that have been elicited, lying to the poor sod without ever actually saying anything false that "is a lie."

Substitute above "mislead" if you prefer.
I think Uriel would still call it a "lie," even if Mab (evidently) would not.

Paviel:

--- Quote from: g33k on April 28, 2019, 08:36:40 PM ---Harry was a Starborn wizard.  He may not have achieved great power yet, but he was far ahead of the curve for most wizards his age.  And the Angel-caliber entities will know he's Starborn, and will see his early power pointing to his upcoming puissance.

And we KNOW they play long-term and often subtle strategies...

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Did some Fallen Angel tell Harry a Lie in Storm Front or earlier in Fool Moon, though? It's not like Uriel to tell Harry a Truth for any other reason.

But then, Uriel isn't the only archangel, is he?

g33k:

--- Quote from: Paviel on May 08, 2019, 02:21:07 AM ---Did some Fallen Angel tell Harry a Lie in Storm Front or earlier in Fool Moon, though?
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We don't know.  It's even possible that there was a lie from before or between the novels; something off-screen, or in a short or a comic.


--- Quote from: Paviel on May 08, 2019, 02:21:07 AM --- It's not like Uriel to tell Harry a Truth for any other reason.
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We don't actually know that, either.  If he felt Harry had been actively deceived, it may not have needed an actual "lie" in words, for Uriel to feel justified in Setting Things Straight.

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