The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Cold Days: Attack on Demonreach
groinkick:
lol I love that you're debating with your "nemesis". Congrats on 5,000 posts.
jonas:
--- Quote from: groinkick on January 23, 2018, 05:38:21 AM ---lol I love that you're debating with your "nemesis". Congrats on 5,000 posts.
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Lmao it got funnier when I realized EG is his Nemesis.
I'd get on the discord discord but I have no idea how it works really(made an acc) and i'd have to wait until the house was quiet, which is practically never.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Cozarkian on January 23, 2018, 01:01:14 AM ---Cutting to the chase, your problem is the failure to realize that Nov. 1 is still Halloween. Halloween lasts until sunrise.
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That doesn't have to be sunrise, anyone who has roosters knows they can crow at any time in the night. Anyone awake early enough knows that some birds start to sing as early as three and four in the morning... Some birds do their singing after dark.
--- Quote ---That bird signaled the end of 'cosmic' Halloween.
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Problem with that is it appears to be a "generic" bird instead of a specific species, so that in of itself could be a trap...
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Mira on January 23, 2018, 12:16:45 PM ---That doesn't have to be sunrise, anyone who has roosters knows they can crow at any time in the night. Anyone awake early enough knows that some birds start to sing as early as three and four in the morning... Some birds do their singing after dark.
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Used to keep a few hens and a rooster. Can confirm. One of the many, many reasons I hate birds as an adult.
I'd argue that it really doesn't matter. This is particularly fine hair-splitting, in my opinion; "November 1st" starts at midnight. It's still Halloween until a bird in the area starts squawking. You've got 3-6 hours there for both things to be true.
I really didn't get the whole Law of Conservation of History stuff. Seemed like an awful lot of exposition for an idea that wasn't made clear enough to make a difference. I kinda hope it doesn't come back up again, or if it does, it's explained by someone who isn't contractually obligated to be mysterious.
raidem:
--- Quote ---2 i'd argue wither the immortals in the mantle could truly be killed with Banefire. It may kill them in most all senses but I think the universe will still have that memory to try to fill up and since human memory has not truly forgotten those things they could reemerge.(this is why I think outsiders try to take on the constructs of dead deity) Plus the results would be catastrophic anyway, they are the source of all negative energy in the world(from 'the well' description) Without those forces contained in reality balance would have to be resettled somewhere.
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I also argued this.
--- Quote ---[12:32 PM] raidem: Another reason to support the idea that those prisoners within Demonreach have 'mantles/power'. They exist here. They haven't been consigned to oblivion yet, unless oblivion is Demonreach but I'd guess not. If there is an idea of those prisoners in Demonreach in the minds of humans, then 'they-in the most encompassing definition' couldn't be destroyed. Their idea would exist so the potential for something to assume this idea, their mask/mantle (in the nature of WOJL on human ideas creating mantles) remains.(edited)
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EG argues the Prisoners don't have mantles.
--- Quote ---Problem with that is it appears to be a "generic" bird instead of a specific species, so that in of itself could be a trap...
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I didn't mean to suggest it was 'that' bird. Or that particular species. I was just saying in general Harry heard a bird and he looked about and saw Kringle walking to him. Therefore the wards were down, Halloween had ended. It wasn't even the first bird or necessarily strict confirmation of the rule, as Mab had recently departed with both Ladies and had conversed with Kringle, etc. The rule concerning first bird most likely aligns with the precise rule, but there still can be a bit of fuzziness. Hey there might be a 'cosmic' bird that decides these things not one on Earth. In mythology there actually are roosters whose crowing mean things.
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