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Knight Ceremony [Cold Case Spoilers]
Rasins:
--- Quote from: Arjan on November 10, 2017, 03:53:12 PM ---We see Harry from inside his own head which distorts a few things, other people see him differently.
The first time Karen really wanted Harry was just after they destroyed the red court. That was a real display of strength and confidence. Harry in action is quite different from normal Harry as Karen mentioned in aftermath.
Now Harry has changed again. The mantle made him stronger, more confident and he had just invited her to go to hell and back with him. That is all very different from a geek in a basement. That was not enough in Cold Days because strength is a problem if you have not enough control.
I do not think people fall for bad, they fall for strength and confidence and sometimes being bad is confused with being strong.
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I can see this.
Cozarkian:
The other factor people always overlook is challenge. We are all aware of the stereotype that men like a challenge when it comes to women - the traditional concept of courting, guy chases girl until she catches him, advice to women not to give it up on the first date, etc..., but nobody ever stops to think that many women also enjoy a challenge. Many nice guys make the mistake of being dutiful and available to the women at all times, which makes the nice guy boring. "Jerks" on the other hand flirt with multiple women, wait a few days a call, and generally don't act like the girl is the center of their world, all of which makes them more desirable by adding challenge to the mix.
wardenferry419:
I would rather be nice and boring than have to deal with pain and drama. Life gives me too much already.
Ananda:
--- Quote from: forumghost on November 10, 2017, 08:11:38 AM ---In Murphy's case it's because she's just as much of a train wreck as far as personal relationships are concerned.
Married her first husband when she was 17. He was way older than her and they had a terrible on-off relationship. Her second husband was an A-Hole that left her because she refused to spend her life pregnant and in the kitchen, and then Married her younger sister (whom she also doesn't get along with) as a follow up.
As far as we know her next relationship was with Kincaid, an immortal demonic murderer for hire. And then there's the newly formed/forming relationship with Harry. Despite having spent years finding new excuses to avoid a relationship with him, now that he's constantly a hair's breath away from murdering and/or raping anyone within shouting distance, she's suddenly keen.
So yeah... Either Murphy is very much part of the "All Women want Bad Boys" Cliche, or she's just self-destructive to a degree that puts Harry to shame.
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Remember, Butcher wrote her. She’s not a real person. His depictions of women aren’t the best. I enjoy the story, but his female characters didn’t really ring true to me. He’s certainly mot alone in that, though. On the other side, Anne Rice’s male characters often came off as as middle aged women, especially in her later books. The funny thing about her female characters is they mostly were uninteresting or tried to act very male. There were a few good ones, though.
Also, failed past relationships don’t compare to suicide guy who lives on a haunted island, is under the control of an amoral faerie queen and is at the center of an inter dimensional war. Dresden’s life is terrible.
Avernite:
--- Quote from: Ananda on November 13, 2017, 04:41:08 AM ---Remember, Butcher wrote her. She’s not a real person. His depictions of women aren’t the best. I enjoy the story, but his female characters didn’t really ring true to me. He’s certainly mot alone in that, though. On the other side, Anne Rice’s male characters often came off as as middle aged women, especially in her later books. The funny thing about her female characters is they mostly were uninteresting or tried to act very male. There were a few good ones, though.
Also, failed past relationships don’t compare to suicide guy who lives on a haunted island, is under the control of an amoral faerie queen and is at the center of an inter dimensional war. Dresden’s life is terrible.
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Plus he has killed all his girlfriends, or at least tried to.
Granted Luccio wasn't his girlfriend yet when he did it, and there were extenuating circumstances both there and with Susan, but damn. Would not want to be Murphy!
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