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Knight Ceremony [Cold Case Spoilers]
Griffyn612:
Have we discussed Harry's knighting ceremony in light of the Cold Case revelations about the Winter Lady's restrictions?
If Maeve handled Slate's initiation along with his selection, does that mean that there was no technical purpose to Mab's method of initiation with Harry?
Or do we think that Maeve picked Slate, and Mab handled the initiation?
Rasins:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 25, 2017, 03:37:21 PM ---Have we discussed Harry's knighting ceremony in light of the Cold Case revelations about the Winter Lady's restrictions?
If Maeve handled Slate's initiation along with his selection, does that mean that there was no technical purpose to Mab's method of initiation with Harry?
Or do we think that Maeve picked Slate, and Mab handled the initiation?
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I was going to bring up Lily and her choosing of her knight. But we really don't know HOW that happened. It was off screen, so .... hmmmm...
jonas:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 25, 2017, 03:37:21 PM ---Have we discussed Harry's knighting ceremony in light of the Cold Case revelations about the Winter Lady's restrictions?
If Maeve handled Slate's initiation along with his selection, does that mean that there was no technical purpose to Mab's method of initiation with Harry?
Or do we think that Maeve picked Slate, and Mab handled the initiation?
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From what I can see, the act is the inception of 'creating' a personified WK undiluted by any influence from previous hosts. So Mab didn't make a new one for Slate, but passed it along to her directly as it was already in existence. Similar to how SK went directly to the SL, and then to Lily while she still held Ruel's(?) head up cupping it in her hand. No boink required. It's the inception that matters.
My queery is on the Mother/Crone... She get's to be so after successfully birthing something? I think the WK is always that something, but is not always successfully done. Kringle likely came from a similar source(just as Pre WK Harry is Tall Runner like Odin and Kringle is Weight lifter like WK Harry). Even though it's part of Mab's power, just like Lash, it's impressed upon something malleable still. Also why she fragged Slate the way she did, knife an stone table an all.
wardenferry419:
I don't think "sexing" the WK is necessary. That was probably a bit of showmanship by Mab along with the live broadcasting. But, I do believe that the new knight has to kill the old knight. That would follow with the predatory nature of the mantle. As far as the Summer courts go, I would guess a more civil transference of power.
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on October 25, 2017, 09:52:27 PM ---I don't think "sexing" the WK is necessary. That was probably a bit of showmanship by Mab along with the live broadcasting. But, I do believe that the new knight has to kill the old knight. That would follow with the predatory nature of the mantle. As far as the Summer courts go, I would guess a more civil transference of power.
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The three Queens might have different ways of passing the mantle, and the Mother's method could be sex.
Knights can die at anytime, so killing the previous knight can't yeah requirement. However I do think there is a secret that the Queen's cannot kill their own knight. That is why Lilly tried to kill Harry, but Maeve personally only ever tried to seduce him. Also, Mab told Harry he would die before he could pull the trigger, not that she would kill him.
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