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forumghost:

--- Quote from: Ananda on November 10, 2017, 04:48:20 AM ---Specifically on the MurphyDresden topic that spawned your “poor nice guys” tangent, I don’t know why Murphy would even consider getting involved with Dresden. That guy is an emotional train wreck and his life is a mess now. Years earlier, he was just a weird guy she knew who lived in a basement and had no money. They had no real connection then, so I’d be shocked if a successful career police officer would get into a relationship with him at that point.
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In Murphy's case it's because she's just as much of a train wreck as far as personal relationships are concerned.

Married her first husband when she was 17. He was way older than her and they had a terrible on-off relationship. Her second husband was an A-Hole that left her because she refused to spend her life pregnant and in the kitchen, and then Married her younger sister (whom she also doesn't get along with) as a follow up.

As far as we know her next relationship was with Kincaid, an immortal demonic murderer for hire. And then there's the newly formed/forming relationship with Harry. Despite having spent years finding new excuses to avoid a relationship with him, now that he's constantly a hair's breath away from murdering and/or raping anyone within shouting distance, she's suddenly keen.

So yeah... Either Murphy is very much part of the "All Women want Bad Boys" Cliche, or she's just self-destructive to a degree that puts Harry to shame.

wardenferry419:
 I often wished they did one of those "Psychology of" or "Philosophy of" books on the Dresden Files. But,  as far as what Ananda stated, "bad boys" don't always send "good girls" to the hospital or therapy. But, it happens enough times for it to be a common theme of a Cops or Jerry Springer episode. Nerd wish fulfillment is a real thing and it kept comic books rolling for almost a century. Molly did try to follow her mother's footsteps with Harry. Charity was rescued by and married a hero of goodness and faith. Molly wanted a darker hero, hence Harry.
Forumghost and Arjan had some good points. The mutual relationship trainwreckness of Harry and Murphy is a given. Murphy expressed feelings that WK Harry is more dangerous and out-of-control. Didn't stop her from saying "yes" to a relationship.And jerks do have more confidence than intelligent people. Jerks "know" they are right without reason and that iswhere they get their surety and confidence. Intelligent people think they may be right but are waiting for proof or a valid argument that disproves their idea.

Arjan:
Confidence also comes from success. That might be what makes it attractive.

So if girls fall for confident men they get even more confident which will spiral into....

Rasins:
The other part of the Women seek out bad boys who are bad for them is also all the complaints we hear from these same women.

As to Molly not following Charity's footsteps, that's not true.  Harry saved her from a big bad, and he's a STRONG man of faith.  Not in Christianity, but he has very strong faith.

Arjan:
We see Harry from inside his own head which distorts a few things, other people see him differently.

The first time Karen really wanted Harry was just after they destroyed the red court. That was a real display of strength and confidence. Harry in action is quite different from normal Harry as Karen mentioned in aftermath.

Now Harry has changed again. The mantle made him stronger, more confident and he had just invited her to go to hell and back with him. That is all very different from a geek in a basement. That was not enough in Cold Days because strength is a problem if you have not enough control.

I do not think people fall for bad, they fall for strength and confidence and sometimes being bad is confused with being strong.

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