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Knight Ceremony [Cold Case Spoilers]
wardenferry419:
--- Quote from: Ananda on November 13, 2017, 04:41:08 AM ---Remember, Butcher wrote her. She’s not a real person. His depictions of women aren’t the best. I enjoy the story, but his female characters didn’t really ring true to me. He’s certainly mot alone in that, though. On the other side, Anne Rice’s male characters often came off as as middle aged women, especially in her later books. The funny thing about her female characters is they mostly were uninteresting or tried to act very male. There were a few good ones, though.
Also, failed past relationships don’t compare to suicide guy who lives on a haunted island, is under the control of an amoral faerie queen and is at the center of an inter dimensional war. Dresden’s life is terrible.
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It is not a competition as to who is the bigger trainwreck. Harry will usually win that one. I am saying that as far as relationships go, neither Murphy nor Harry have the best track record. Women often don't know how to write men. Men often don't know how to write women.
jonas:
--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on November 13, 2017, 10:03:31 AM ---It is not a competition as to who is the bigger trainwreck. Harry will usually win that one. I am saying that as far as relationships go, neither Murphy nor Harry have the best track record. Women often don't know how to write men. Men often don't know how to write women.
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If the veil between sexes were that easily pierced every would be doing it.
wardenferry419:
Veil for you, brick wall for me.
Ananda:
--- Quote from: Avernite on November 13, 2017, 06:10:18 AM ---Plus he has killed all his girlfriends, or at least tried to.
Granted Luccio wasn't his girlfriend yet when he did it, and there were extenuating circumstances both there and with Susan, but damn. Would not want to be Murphy!
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Haha! Good point! And, Lucio was mind-controlled into a non-consensual relationship with him! And, Dresden is constantly bringing up Molly’s traing bra. What a creep!
Wardenferry, what I’m saying about Murphy and Dresden being a terrible couple comes down to looking at it through a normal woman’s point of view.
Dresden was not someone she really felt much for early on. She was a successful, career orientated woman and Dresden was a weird poor guy who lived in a shitty basement with no electricity. He acted like a complete whackadoodle from her point of view. She had zero reason to be interested in him. Also, he’s not described as particularly attractive as far as I recall.
Midway through the story, she learns more about him, but he’s still this bizarre outsider who lies to her regularly. And, he didn’t get richer or better looking.
Later, coming to where we are now, his life is in such a state of ruin that, even with her loss of career and sense of identity (“I’m a cop, Harry”), it’s still a terrible idea to get involved with him just because she’s used to him. He is living at the extreme edge now more than ever. There is really no future there for her; just drama, trauma and death on all sides. She’s in her mid or late forties now? There was never any real passion between them. This getting together out of comfort or being used to him (settling essentially), I could see, if not for the death and destruction on all sides.
So, no, I don’t see Murphy’s reason for it. Dresden’s, yes. Murphy’s, no.
The Molly thing just seems like pure fantasy like Andi and Butters.
wardenferry419:
I think Harry's death changed Murphy's tune. People often realize something when it's too late; this time it really wasn't too late.
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