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Kindler:

--- Quote from: Rasins on September 26, 2017, 07:02:54 PM ---I don't know about them being forgotten in the well.  If you're an (effectively) Immortal being and your buddy, also and Immortal is locked up in the well, are you going to forget them?

I'm beginning to think that part of the goal of Peace Talks will be for the Fomor to negotiate the release of some of the inmates.

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I'm not sure that applies; I've always thought that it was mortal memory that counted, for the Oblivion War and other things. Like Mab working with Disney (conjecture by Harry in Cold Days) to spread fairy tales in the last century. She should have all the Sidhe belief she needs, what with the millions of soldiers hanging out at the Outer Gates. I figured similar rules apply to Cthulhu.

Con:

--- Quote from: Kindler on September 26, 2017, 07:36:45 PM ---I'm not sure that applies; I've always thought that it was mortal memory that counted, for the Oblivion War and other things. Like Mab working with Disney (conjecture by Harry in Cold Days) to spread fairy tales in the last century. She should have all the Sidhe belief she needs, what with the millions of soldiers hanging out at the Outer Gates. I figured similar rules apply to Cthulhu.

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Confirmed by Thomas in the Short Story Back Up and COnfirmed by the dedication in the Grimm book in Cold Days. Mab spread fairy tales.

Kindler:

--- Quote from: Con on September 27, 2017, 03:25:24 AM ---Confirmed by Thomas in the Short Story Back Up and COnfirmed by the dedication in the Grimm book in Cold Days. Mab spread fairy tales.

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I meant her work with Walt Disney specifically—Harry makes a guess after reading the dedication in Cold Days. I'm still not sure what the rules are for belief and power among entities like Mab and Odin. Is it a source of power? Is it outright necessary for their survival? If enough people forget about a specific mask (using Kringle/Odin's term from the end of Cold Days), is that mask destroyed? There are hints that many of them have had to change roles over the centuries, picking up cultural influence with one as another's influence wanes.

Really makes me wonder who else the Erlking is (*cough*Hades*coughcough*), and what would have happened if Harry fell into the Erlking's lair while he was off being someone else. Are some of them capable of bilocation?

I know I gush about the Dresden Files all the time (to the point that my family has banned discussion of it during dinner), but one of the reasons I love it so much is that you can have this kind of question and have a reasonable expectation that Mr. Butcher would know the answer.

Con:
Hades as Erlking... huh can't believe I hadn't thought of that.

Mostly I still refer to the meaning of anagram Erlking and Kringle

jonas:

--- Quote from: Con on September 27, 2017, 03:06:31 PM ---Hades as Erlking... huh can't believe I hadn't thought of that.

Mostly I still refer to the meaning of anagram Erlking and Kringle

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Huh, interesting. Never caught that.

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