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Con:
So we know the White Court are the primary caretakers of the Venatores whose purpose it is to wiped out world threatening supernatural beings and organisations through Black Ops. My question is who and what beings/organisations have they been succesful in doing this too?

Top Three Contenders.
-Black Court
-Various Fomor Entities that banded together to create the Fomor

My personal theory:

Kemmler.

Think about it.

We know Lara organised the publishing of Bram Stoker's book a manual on killing Black Court. Which if you think about it was inspired by the reverse status quo of the Ventori which was destroy all books with knowledge of a creature. NOt too mention someone had to lead all the raging mobs to the various Black Court Nests.

The Black Court was an extensive organisation with 30 Elders capable of taking on Mab are we expected to believe the raging Mob's happened upon their nests?

We know Kemmler had links to the Black Court and that his Necromancy and the Darkhallow are tied to the Black Court and their Ascension Rite.

We know that the Kemmler published three books of which their aren't very many copies of any left alone the last copy of the Word of Kemmler. That is precisely Venatori MO.

Kemmler was getting majorly powerful, enough to perform the Darkhallow. Someone would have had to have kept tipping the White Council off to where he was each time he rose from the grave.

It also explains some of Thomas's actions during Dead Beat. Urging Harry to contact the White Council for instance.

So who else do you think the Venatori have succesfully or partially succesfully taken down. I guess we can include Thomas's assist in taking down the Red Court as one and Lara's support in the aftermath.

Think they'll someday succeed in making humanity forget the Titans?

wardenferry419:
Their successes are measured by the absence of knowledge of their foe's existence.

Zaphodess:

--- Quote from: Con on August 23, 2017, 03:37:15 AM ---So we know the White Court are the primary caretakers of the Venatores ...

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Huge assumption there in your first sentence. Given that the Archive plays a major role in the Oblivion war according to WoJ, I'd rather assume she is masterminding the Venatori.

Con:
You're right completely left out the Archive. Hmm I'll edit a revised post later.

jonas:

--- Quote ---We know Lara organised the publishing of Bram Stoker's book a manual on killing Black Court. Which if you think about it was inspired by the reverse status quo of the Ventori which was destroy all books with knowledge of a creature.
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Not sure where you got WCV are caretakers of venatori, we only know Laura and Thomas are involved? But... My personal theory, and since Laura as the Venator cut out would know/understand better how it all works and was directly involved with stoker, two points that back up my idea,
They did the opposite, they gave belief to something that had found it's way inside but hadn't been truly defined by the mortals currently dealing with them, except as invincible creatures of the shadows. Stoker changed that not by publicizing their secret weakness's, but by causing belief about them to create said weakness's. Taking something new and not well known(possibly coupled with something ancient and not well remembered) and giving it limits and curtailing it through belief. Notice the BCV are most effected by faith too, I think that factors into both the cause and effect here.

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