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Proof that Time Travel Harry did not fix Little Chicago?? (CD Spoilers)

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Cenphx:
Regarding the temporal echoes, Hollorr, you makea good point. Molly did say she felt them when she was visiting DR. So in the Little Chicago example, if the sort of time travel were used that caused the echoes, it might only be close to the site. Of course that would be Harry's lab in the six years or more before PG, so maybe Harry wouldve noticed them? But we dont know precisely what they would look like either...

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Cenphx on February 13, 2013, 03:14:32 AM ---Regarding the temporal echoes, Hollorr, you makea good point. Molly did say she felt them when she was visiting DR. So in the Little Chicago example, if the sort of time travel were used that caused the echoes, it might only be close to the site. Of course that would be Harry's lab in the six years or more before PG, so maybe Harry wouldve noticed them? But we dont know precisely what they would look like either...

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Remember, the things she felt on DR were a symptom of the attack, not the time-dilation.  It was the energy buildup, which she described as a steam in a boiler.  That same thing is said by Harry and Bob to be the flares of the temporal energy attack rippling back.  It's a combination of both the time distortion and the attack.  And it was only felt on DR, where both were taking place.

Even if there were echoes of some sort, if the bridge/pocket were formed on DR, that's where the echoes would be felt.  Since Harry never set foot on DR until years after PG, I don't think anyone would know.  But it would be interesting if there were some sort of time-dilation resonance between the two points (PG and the time a bridge were created).  That resonance may have a strange side affect, like maybe letting Harry get a minor feel for Intellectus on the island prior to actually bonding with it?  We can accept Anya-My-Mind-Has-Been-Screwed-With-Luccio's explanation of "it's your precognitive sight, stupid", or maybe it's a side-affect of a bridge between two times, one where Harry is bonded to the island, and one where he isn't?

the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:

--- Quote from: Hollorr on February 13, 2013, 02:33:58 AM ---oh the bob the skull talking about stealing a car to explain to harry about what the gate keeper does and someone said that could be a JB clues about whats gonna happen...FH steals car and trys to run over PH to give him enough time to fix LC..anyway Bob the skull was from another poster.

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nah, Future Harry's new car from CD seems big enough to run PG-Harry in the Beetle off the road.

matorade:
Here I have a problem when it comes to TTH fixing Little Chicago.  Bob clearly said Harry would have been toasted if he used it.  Since Bob missed the screw-up in the first place, then the question is how the hell can TTH come back when he was already blown away once he finally use Little Chicago in some point after PG events without any distraction.  I mean supposed Harry, in case, in some future spotted this screw-up before using it and then time-travelled to PG in later future and fixed LC beforehand, then won't it be like he has just erased his own timeline literally and that he can't come back to the future to pick up where he left behind?  Leaving him running around while an alternate Harry exists in the current Dresden universe, I guess that would be my exact thought if TTH theory did happened.

Ugh, I hate time paradox and slip theories...


EDIT: Sorry, had a long day and should have slapped my sleepyhead

wizard nelson:
thats why its a time loop ;) to again reference terminator how did john send his dad back in time to father him if he hadn't done it yet? in that one particular time stream it ALWAYS happened and couldn't have happened any other way. this does not discount the idea of parallel divergence or them becoming paradox but this is what a novikov time loop is, a self contained time stream that exists because time travel was used to create it. i know, it doesn't answer your question directly but thats because until someone actually uses time  travel its all theory, there is no answer.

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