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Proof that Time Travel Harry did not fix Little Chicago?? (CD Spoilers)
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: Silkki on February 12, 2013, 11:09:12 PM ---I think most obvious thing to suggest that it's possible to travel trough time even as a mortal is in the laws of magic. If it's impossible unless you are a god, and a strong one at that, the law is meaningless. Something I don't think it is.
Didn't read trough the whole thread so sorry if this was addressed earlier, but the CD energy response was Demonreach chargin in order to use Banefire. It was simply doing it ahead of time cause it was able to sense the incoming attack that would occur in the future.
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the law prohibits swimming thru time, which includes travel to alternate nows, seeing the future, and trying to visit the future to alter the present as well as going back wards
the laws tend to be fairly specific , for example it does not say ' do not kill' it says ' do not kill mortals with magic'
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on February 12, 2013, 09:47:11 PM ---My assumption is that Merlin Emrys is/was a mortal wizard. Maybe he is/was ancient, and from Atlantis for all we know. One of the few fictions I read about Merlin was the Lawhead series, where Taliesin was his father, who was born on Atlantis. I don't know where he got that idea from.
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Considering that's the series where the ancient Celts eat potatoes for breakfast, he probably made it up out of whole cloth. (Potatoes; native to the Americas. Not known in Europe until over a millennium later.)
--- Quote ---As for Merlin being ancient in the Dresdenverse, I think his involvement in the Wouncil eliminates him being anything other than a mortal, right?
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Depends on whether he followed the rules he was setting for everyone else.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on February 12, 2013, 11:11:11 PM ---the law prohibits swimming thru time, which includes travel to alternate nows, seeing the future, and trying to visit the future to alter the present as well as going back wards
the laws tend to be fairly specific , for example it does not say ' do not kill' it says ' do not kill mortals with magic'
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Eb qioutes the relevant law in BR as "swim against the currents of time". I'm not sure that rules out all the options you mention.
Hollorr:
--- Quote from: Cenphx on February 12, 2013, 09:57:18 PM ---Ahh, there. This makes sense. It seems exceedingly obvious now that you’ve said it, but it wasn’t at all obvious to me before. Not all time travel has to be the same kind of time travel. We could have Tardis-y time travel, and the ribbon time folding-y thing Griffyn612 mentioned and any number of other models, some of which could lead to the closed time loops, others possibly allowing the past to be rewritten. This latter version would be the one which Odin was talking about, and the only one, for sure, that we know about which causes temporal echoes. As a matter of fact, if we incorporate Ms Duck’s point that not every being engaging in time travel will have the same skill or power level, it could be that the differences in such is what results in the ability to change time versus getting stuck in a closed loop.
So to the original question I asked—whether the lack of temporal echoes means that we know Time Travel Harry did not fix Little Chicago—the answer, in my opinion, is no, it does not prove anything because we do not yet know enough about time travel in TDF to know that temporal echoes occur in every situation or what type of time travel would be involved in that particular journey.
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Hmm I think it got the word I wanted to be bold in the quote but just in case " lack of temporal echoes means that we know Time Travel Harry did not fix Little Chicago—the answer"
From what I understand from CD that you had to be physically close to the area where the Echoes are coming to feel them or thats what I got from both Molly and Harry saying as soon they got to DR island and felt something wrong....whos to say that FH didn't bridge a gap back to the Past Harry timelime far away enough to hide the Echoes your talking about.
Oh yeah I think the timetravel is possible but it might require like 13 mages that From SF talks about to do a ritual or some major gods like the greaks since we haven't really seen Zeus Pantheon.
oh the bob the skull talking about stealing a car to explain to harry about what the gate keeper does and someone said that could be a JB clues about whats gonna happen...FH steals car and trys to run over PH to give him enough time to fix LC..anyway Bob the skull was from another poster.
wizard nelson:
--- Quote ---Oh yeah I think the timetravel is possible but it might require like 13 mages that From SF talks about to do a ritual
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13 is just the maximum number of practitioners that can cooperate on a ritual nothing to do with time travel itself. usually its weak practitioners that do this though 13 weaklings doth not time travel enable. its almost a given a godling must help. odin even says so.
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