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jb2point0:
--- Quote from: Shecky on January 31, 2013, 04:48:07 PM ---Not sure that follows from my comment. I was questioning the basic concept that Nemesis could have been an Outsider all along, and only peripherally whether an Outsider can stay for long in our world. Also, "immortal" does not equate to "Outsider".
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I was going along the lines of Nemesis being a deity, and Outsiders are more or less Old Ones and their minions, so a slight misstep in my wording.
What I'm saying is, I think the Outsiders were not always Outsiders, their removal from reality to beyond the gates is what made them Outsiders, and this removal is some process that may occur to different entities at different points in history.
GrandPanjandrum:
--- Quote from: jb2point0 on January 31, 2013, 05:16:18 PM ---I was going along the lines of Nemesis being a deity, and Outsiders are more or less Old Ones and their minions, so a slight misstep in my wording.
What I'm saying is, I think the Outsiders were not always Outsiders, their removal from reality to beyond the gates is what made them Outsiders, and this removal is some process that may occur to different entities at different points in history.
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Oooooo...nice connection to the Oblivion War...and a reason that the bad guys seem to use the same hang-outs (Dock hang-out in Cold Days....Dock hang-out in Back-up)
KevinSig:
We know that one of Nemisis's other names is Lord of Slowest Terror. (Blood Rites, the chant that invoked He Who Walks Behind, who is said to be Lord of Slowest Terror's Right hand.)
Is Nemisis or Lachesis associated with slow terror? If not, it might put a crimp in your theory.
Or not. I just thought I'd point this out.
Still, I wouldn't think Nemisis (the Greek god) would be considered forgotten enough, to negate existence. So, maybe the Outer Gates don't have any effect on the Oblivion War.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: KevinSig on January 31, 2013, 05:21:49 PM ---We know that one of Nemisis's other names is Lord of Slowest Terror. (Blood Rites, the chant that invoked He Who Walks Behind, who is said to be Lord of Slowest Terror's Right hand.)
Is Nemisis or Lachesis associated with slow terror? If not, it might put a crimp in your theory.
Or not. I just thought I'd point this out.
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We sure that The Lord of Slowest Terror and Nemesis are the same entity?
As a side note, only 19 more likes to the Evil Hat page and we get another rpg teaser. Anyone who has a Facebook account and hasn't liked Evil Hat, I ask that you do so now.
KevinSig:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on January 31, 2013, 05:23:38 PM ---We sure that the Old One HWWB follows and Nemesis are the same entity?
As a side note, only 19 more likes to the Evil Hat page and we get another rpg teaser. Anyone who has a Facebook account and hasn't liked Evil Hat, I ask that you do so now.
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Can't respond without getting into Cold Days territory, but...
(click to show/hide)Given the actions of He Who Walks Before, I think its a reasonable guess. And there's Mac's indication that there are 3 Walkers.
Behind was the Right Hand. Before likely was the Left. And Between (my name choice) likely is the Mouth of Nemisis/Lord of Slowest Terror.
Then there's Harry's comment that the Outsiders all work together.
Maybe, the Outsiders are just flunkies, but I really doubt it. So, until other info comes up, I assume Nemisis & Lord of Slowest Terror are one in the same.
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